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Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:42 pm
by Mwildmann
I'm not sure what you all are using for turnbuckles but I was in the market for some for my Team Car rebuild. I'm far too cheap to buy anything titanium, nor am I a good enough driver to make use of any performance gains. I wanted something a tiny bit more flashy than the universal cut-to-length Dubro ones I could find. I ran across these spiffy stainless steel ones marketed for R/C airplanes. I did a little figuring/guessing and bought 2 pairs in the 1 5/16 inch length for front and rear bulkheads and 1 pair of the 1 1/2 inch for the front steering turnbuckles, for use with slightly longer than stock RPM standard length ball cups. They turned out pretty nice IMO.

https://www.espritmodel.com/pushrod-turnbuckle-steel-secraft-440-2.aspx
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Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:59 pm
by juicedcoupe
I typically get the chrome Schumacher turnbuckles in whatever lengths I need.

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:13 pm
by Mwildmann
juicedcoupe wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:59 pm I typically get the chrome Schumacher turnbuckles in whatever lengths I need.
They work with the 4-40 ball cups? They are nice...

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:17 pm
by juicedcoupe
Mwildmann wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:13 pm
juicedcoupe wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:59 pm I typically get the chrome Schumacher turnbuckles in whatever lengths I need.
They work with the 4-40 ball cups? They are nice...
Yes, they are M3 thread. M3 is slightly (very slight) larger than 4-40.

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:04 pm
by Mwildmann
juicedcoupe wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:17 pm
Yes, they are M3 thread. M3 is slightly (very slight) larger than 4-40.
Dang, and here I thought I was about to contribute something helpful! :lol: When I invest in a basket case RC10T I'll be sure to give the Schumacher ones a shot.

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:14 pm
by Frankentruck
Mwildmann wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:04 pm
juicedcoupe wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:17 pm
Yes, they are M3 thread. M3 is slightly (very slight) larger than 4-40.
Dang, and here I thought I was about to contribute something helpful! :lol: When I invest in a basket case RC10T I'll be sure to give the Schumacher ones a shot.
Those stainless turnbuckles you used are new to me and look really nice.

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:16 pm
by Mwildmann
Frankentruck wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:14 pm Those stainless turnbuckles you used are new to me and look really nice.
Thanks! I'm definitely happy with them.

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:59 pm
by MarkyDents
They very much resemble Tecnacraft Ti turnbuckles, and that to me is AWESOME ! Never seen them before so thank you 8)

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:23 pm
by mikea96
Yeah they look really good!

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:35 pm
by Mwildmann
MarkyDents wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:59 pm They very much resemble Tecnacraft Ti turnbuckles, and that to me is AWESOME ! Never seen them before so thank you 8)
My pleasure, and I agree. They have that sort-of darker hue like titanium....but only $3 a pair. I'll rock fake titanium every day of the week.

My only complaint is the slightly inconsistent machining...but I already got over it.

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:45 pm
by klavy69
Want to thank you also. I was sorting turnbuckles last month and was putting tecnacraft in a pile when I had a really heavy one to go with them. Definitely tell the weight difference but damn they look very much alike. Now I know where to look for more to finish the stuff I found.

Todd

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:50 pm
by Mwildmann
klavy69 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:45 pm Want to thank you also. I was sorting turnbuckles last month and was putting tecnacraft in a pile when I had a really heavy one to go with them. Definitely tell the weight difference but damn they look very much alike. Now I know where to look for more to finish the stuff I found.

Todd
Sorting out a whole pile of titanium turnbuckles, eh? Not a bad problem to have! Really glad to have helped out. 👍

Re: Turnbuckles

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:00 pm
by juicedcoupe
Not to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe that you'll find that you have an interference problem between these ball cups. Move the steering as you compress the suspension.
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You have RPM ball cups AND RCPS/Losi bellcranks. Either one is likely to cause problems by themselves, and it's almost guaranteed with both. I personally avoid using either on a buggy front end.

You can try moving the camber links to the outer holes of the shock tower, if you have enough adjustability.

Schumacher makes a low profile ball stud that can be used at the tower to provide a little more clearance.