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OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:28 pm
by Grunger73
In my search for a hardened pinion for my optima I've come across a few variations of the ot-76. From what I've read, it should be a dull grey but the ones I've come across are not. They are clearly marked OT-76 hard final pinion on the packaging hence my confusion. Are these "shinier" pinions inferior?

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:40 pm
by tamiyadan
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Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:48 pm
by Coelacanth
Thorp also made an upgrade gear, I believe made from steel. I managed to score a few of these over the years. Pick one up from this seller (not me) and save yourself a few bucks. 8)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-THORP-Dirt-Burners-4738-Ultima-Maxxum-Optima-Javelin-OT76-Final-Pinion-/191756032060?hash=item2ca58cd83c:g:qeYAAOxy7MtRr9fT

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:55 pm
by tamiyadan
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Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:07 pm
by GoMachV
You can also use a 5mm bore Robinson pinion gear. They for great. Can't recall the tooth count but a whole lot cheaper!

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:00 pm
by Grunger73
Thanks guys. With the hardened pinion, how hot of a motor can these diffs handle? I know that the chain drive won't hold up to today's mod motors but I'm just wondering about the diff itself.

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:02 pm
by Coelacanth
Somebody posted a topic on here about that...I believe it was a great alternative, dirt-cheap...but also needed spacers as the pinion gears were shorter. I believe the final pinion gear is 19T...can someone confirm the pitch?

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:01 pm
by GoMachV
It's 32 pitch and 19t sounds correct. I don't recall spacing it on mine but I must have

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:03 pm
by tamiyadan
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Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:45 pm
by losiXXXman
19 is the correct tooth count as well.

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:57 am
by DennisM
tamiyadan wrote:pitch is 32 metric.
Final pinion is .8 module 19t

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:54 pm
by Grunger73
Thank you guys. I ended up buying a hardened final pinion off eBay . I know I over payed but who knows what or if any will show up in the future.

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:14 pm
by terry.sc
Grunger73 wrote:In my search for a hardened pinion for my optima I've come across a few variations of the ot-76. From what I've read, it should be a dull grey but the ones I've come across are not. They are clearly marked OT-76 hard final pinion on the packaging hence my confusion. Are these "shinier" pinions inferior?
The easy way to identify a OT-76 pinion is that the hard pinion has a groove machined into it, as can be seen here.
ot76.jpg

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:25 pm
by Grunger73
terry.sc wrote:
Grunger73 wrote:In my search for a hardened pinion for my optima I've come across a few variations of the ot-76. From what I've read, it should be a dull grey but the ones I've come across are not. They are clearly marked OT-76 hard final pinion on the packaging hence my confusion. Are these "shinier" pinions inferior?
The easy way to identify a OT-76 pinion is that the hard pinion has a groove machined into it, as can be seen here.
ot76.jpg
Yes, I made sure it had that ring around it . The one I bought is shiny like the one in your pic. Some sort of hardened aluminum I would assume??

Re: OT-76 hard pinion confusion

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:36 am
by jwscab
not likely. probably steel, if hardened any significant amount. can be coated about 10 different ways, could be chrome plated, polished, cadmium, chromate, etc.

yes, i recall that the final pinion can be replaced with a robinson motor pinion a lot cheaper.