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Trying to identify a vintage kyosho buggy. Is this a turbo scorpion or just a scorpion. The wing looks like a turbo, but other part look like a original scorpion.

That's the uber-rare Thumbnail Scorpion. It's 1/100 scale.

I saved the picture from an ebay message and it saved as thumbnail pic, I could not get it to save the full size. So, I used my phone and took a picture of the screen, it's real bad quality but.....

Looks like a combination of Scorpion and Turbo Scorpion parts. The car was probably pieced together.

Judging by the bumper, wing & mount, 10 mm red shocks and the straight vertical (alloy) part of the rollcage, I´d say, it´s a Turbo with std. roof.

Rear shocks are mounted on the back side of the upper mount - can´t imagine it does any magic for the suspension.

If you could get a picture a bit more from the side, it would be easier to determine.

Thanks Dennis, I asked the seller for more pictures. I bought a kyosho advance from this guy and he asked for my help identifying it the buggy. As it turns out I am looking for a turbo scorpion, I just can't tell from that picture. The rear wing is definitely a turbo scorpion. Not sure about the body, do you know if the turbo body is interchangeable with a original scorpion frame? I will post additional pics if I get them.

Have him check for a differential...that should tell the story

DennisM wrote:Judging by the bumper, wing & mount, 10 mm red shocks and the straight vertical (alloy) part of the rollcage, I´d say, it´s a Turbo with std. roof.

Turbo came with a bent aluminum roll bar. Trans case looks like a Turbo's but it also looks like it's a got a cast aluminum, Kyosho labeled, trans cover instead if the resistor holder that the Turbo's came with. It also looks like it's a got a black tub (which doesn't necessarily mean it's not a Turbo but the great majority were white tubs) and chrome wheels.

Here is some more pictures. Thoughts? Turbo chassis with original scorpion body?

I'm sticking with my original assessment that it's a pieced together car with several parts from different generations plus some aftermarket parts.

Phin wrote:I'm sticking with my original assessment that it's a pieced together car with several parts from different generations plus some aftermarket parts.

I´ve been looking at Turbo pictures for an hour, and can´t seem to find the red line in it. There must have been a lot of running changes.
But the cast transmission top cover doesn´t exactly support my idea

gomachv wrote:Have him check for a differential...that should tell the story

The majority of my std. Scorpion´s, have differentials. My Beetle´s, on the other hand, doesn´t.
Most of mine are from Germany, could have been sold through Graupner.

More pics

Just noticed from the side pic that the transmission case is not a Turbo's...it's only got 2 mounting holes for the rear shock tower.

Except for the wing mount, bumper, and rear tires that's a very nice standard Scorpion. The wheels are so shiny I can't tell if they're chrome or aluminum?


http://vintagekyosho.com/?page_id=180

Phil, thanks for your help that turbo wing mount threw me off. I have turbo scorpion body being painted and need a chassis for it, I guess it wouldn't fit this? I may still bid on this because the condition is so good and my othe purchase from this seller was great.