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Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:06 am
by shoman24v
Has anyone here performed this modification to the RC10? If so, can you post links to the parts and prices?

I think this would be a great way for those who want to keep the RC10 look but update some of the parts. I plan on doing this soon to my World's car, but I don't want to buy incorrect parts since this conversion will not be cheap. So far, I calculated +$130.

Pictures taken from Facebook.

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Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:24 am
by jwscab
you don't need the fancy rear hubs or hexes, unless you wanted them. the plastic parts would be perfectly fine. that should knock the cost down a little.

you should be able to find the front and rear hubs as take off parts pretty easily on ebay. for that setup, I believe the CVDs are B44 rears. these modifications are part of the 'whats old is new' line of cars that people have been building for a couple years now. plenty of search material for you to dig through.

bearings from avid are $1.00 each. Jconcepts wheels are cheap for a pack of 4 rears or fronts, so you end up with a spare set. I'd say you might be able to do that conversion, including wheels and tires for less than $100 with some smart shopping.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:14 pm
by shoman24v
I assume I will need the 0 degree rear hub carriers?

I'll probably get the more fancy stuff, just will make the car look a bit cooler.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:32 pm
by RC10th
I wonder what drive shafts they went with? I found the B44's to be too long.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:34 pm
by shoman24v
B44 rear CVAs. I just wanna lay down the parts for those who want to do this.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:40 am
by JK Racing
Parts I see:

AE rear CVA, B44 - 9756
AE rear hub (alloy), 9864 (0 degree), 9865 (.5 degree), 9866 (1 degree) *
AE rear hub tower (C? in CF), 9873

AE B4 front carriers (20 degree is my suggestion), 6214 *&**
AE B4.2 front knuckle, 9880
AE B4.2 kingpin, 9622 (kit, more than you need)

Unknown parts:

Front & rear alloy hex adaptors
Front axle (B4, T4, SC10?)

* drilled for 1/8" hinge pin
** 20 degree will give the RC10 25 degrees of caster (preferred)

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:25 am
by shoman24v
Here's the list I've compiled. I can't seem to figure out the front stuff needed. Not what most may what to do, but you get the idea.

Rear end parts:

#9864 - Aluminum Hub Set $30.99
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_369/products_id/177911/n/Team-Associated-Factory-Team-0-Aluminum-Hub-Set-2

#9873 - Carbon Hub Fiber C Tower $11.75
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_369/products_id/202594/n/Team-Associated-Factory-Team-Aluminum-Hub-Carbon-Fiber-C-Tower-Set-2

#9580 - B44 Rear CVA Set $26.49
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_701/products_id/18345/n/Team-Associated-Rear-CVA-Kit-B44

#3977 - 3/6" x 3/8" Rubber Sealed Bearings (2 Needed) $10.98
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_42/products_id/7978/n/Team-Associated-3-16-x-3-8-Rubber-Sealed-Bearings-2


#9892 - 12mm Aluminum Rear Clamping Wheel Hex Set (2 Needed) $19.98
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_825/products_id/236851/n/Team-Associated-12mm-Aluminum-Rear-Clamping-Wheel-Hex-Set-Blue-2

I'm not sure what exactly I need for front end parts - Any parts with links or numbers are greatly appreciated. Or even what car we need the parts from.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:31 am
by scr8p
that's tim covell's car. why didn't you ask him about the parts rundown when he posted the pics on facebook?

he's a member here, too. send him a pm.

http://www.rc10talk.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=417

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:55 am
by shoman24v
I did ask... lol. I got the rear part down, it's just the front. I was told B4 spindles/SC10.2 front axles, but from the photo it looks like the caster block is different from what the car comes with.

Just don't want to place several orders because I missed other parts.

Front End Parts:

#9880 - Team Associated Hex Steering Block Set $4.59
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_824/products_id/209659/n/Team-Associated-Hex-Steering-Block-Set-SC10RS

#31286 - Team Associated Factory Team Aluminum Ballstud Washer (8) $5.49
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/2_378_468/products_id/22010/n/Team-Associated-Factory-Team-Aluminum-Ballstud-Washer-8

#4449 - Team Associated 4-40 Aluminum Locknut (5) $3.69
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_369/products_id/7982/n/Team-Associated-4-40-Aluminum-Locknut-5

#7369 - Team Associated Universal 1/16" Axle Pin (4) $1.89
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_42/products_id/2438/n/Team-Associated-Universal-1-16-Axle-Pin-4

#9881 - Team Associated Hex Front Axle Set $6.39
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_1139/products_id/209660/n/Team-Associated-Hex-Front-Axle-Set-SC10RS

#9592 - Team Associated 20 Degree Caster Block (T4/B4/GT2) $3.69
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_369/products_id/2444/n/Team-Associated-20-Degree-Caster-Block-T4-B4-GT2

#3983 - Team Associated .300" Ball Stud (Black) (6) $6.39
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_369/products_id/7980/n/Team-Associated-300-Ball-Stud-Black-6

#3977 - 3/6" x 3/8" Rubber Sealed Bearings (2 Needed) $10.98
http://www.amain.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_1450_42/products_id/7978/n/Team-Associated-3-16-x-3-8-Rubber-Sealed-Bearings-2

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:09 am
by jwscab

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:22 am
by shoman24v
Thanks! Now this makes a bit more sense, I updated the previous posts with the correct parts.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:37 am
by JK Racing
Good, he used SC10 front/rear hex kit (available in plastic as well as the clamping alloy) & SC10 front axles.

I think I have most of these parts already in my spares :) , but I just placed an order for more wheels/tires for the stock geometery car. Maybe my next build will share wheels with my B5.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:42 am
by RC10th
Hmmm, I must be the only one who had problems with B44 CVA's with stock arms and B4 rear hubs...

You'll need #7935 .187x.196 bearing and #7933 crush tubes for the rear hubs.

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:52 am
by shoman24v
What kind of problems are you having?

Re: Modernizing the RC10 hubs with SC10, B4, and other parts

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:55 am
by scr8p
RC10th wrote:Hmmm, I must be the only one who had problems with B44 CVA's with stock arms and B4 rear hubs....
You're not. There are more than a few guys that needed to modify the hubs to make them work properly.

One day I will buy a pair of hubs to see for myself first hand.