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What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:57 pm
by 8rad
I am gathering parts for my first ever RC10 build. Dynotech Klein has been done to death and RPM Worlds are like hens teeth.

So to all you RC10 experts. Are there any other long arms that will work. Even with a little modification?

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:19 pm
by tecnica2001
RC10b3 front arms will work also....off course you'd still need the truck front end, just use b3 arms instead of the Klein arms...

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:53 pm
by Norman
you sure. cause the b3 arms a way longer then the klein arms are.

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:58 pm
by 8rad
Perfect! Got the truck front end. Thanks. I will give that a try.

edit: Maybe I'll wait till the jury is in.

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:45 pm
by teman
Have you tried the stock long arms yet?

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:12 pm
by Norman
teman wrote:Have you tried the stock long arms yet?
lol those are two short. i tired them on mine and it was really short and you have to modify the bulk head and arms a lot to get them to work.

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:04 pm
by GAMMACRUSH
I've used stock long rc10CE arms, I had to dremel the truck bulkhead to fit the arms. Then I used the gt extended front axles, it was still about 1/4 inch shorter in width compared to stock arms and stock bulkhead. You can shim about another 1/8 inch. If you use different steering block carriers you can get more width. I cant say for sure, but i remember someone using b4 steering block carriers that are wider than stock. you an also modify the rim shave off the outer lip and glue your tires 1/16 inch out so the tire is fatter. You can also drill the rim out, glue the bearings to the rim, making an offset rim, and use a smaller nut to hold the rim on. :D

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:38 am
by losiXXXman
Ultima arms are 2.25" hinge pin center to h.p. center (the RPM worlds are 2.325 )- and they will mount on the truck bulkhead (might need a little clearancing). Using gt axles might get you where you want to be...

Another option might be the Losi Pro SE (swept front arms).

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:34 am
by 8rad
Hmmmm. Interesting. Ultima arms may be the way to go. Are there any aftermarket Ultima arms that arent impossible to find?

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:16 am
by Asso_man!
8rad wrote:Hmmmm. Interesting. Ultima arms may be the way to go. Are there any aftermarket Ultima arms that arent impossible to find?
Andy's, RPM to name a few...

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:52 am
by Lonestar
Anyone looked into TRX-1 arms? I just got a TRX1 that has AE wide arms on the front... and it's too narrow vs. stock ;)

Paul

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:58 am
by 8rad
You got me thinking Paul. What about Traxxas Bandit? Probably the same width as the TRX but with arms available at the LHS.

I am going to check on my way home tonight.

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:24 am
by jwscab
here is what I know. all info pertains to front arms.

B3, B2, too long to fit truck or buggy bulkhead.

klien arms, obviously the right size with truck bulkhead, no brainer.

ultima, jrx2, pro-se swept and any replacements thereof(rpm, andys) will fit on truck bulkhead and be close, some slight modding needed on either arm or bulkhead (shaving near pin or width adjustment). pro-se swept is closest to worlds arm, others will change wheelbase, less sweep. also need some adjustments to shock position, both lean angle and spacing from tower.

bandit is way too wide, near b2/b3 dimensions. custom bulkhead necessary. see current thread:
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=22423

looking into custom works 3255 arm, it looks close but I have no dimensions.

trx1 arms I believe are also too long.

traxxas bullet arms are slightly wider than rc10 'long arm' by about 1/8th inch.

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:40 am
by 8rad
Thanks jwscab! Save me a trip to the LHS.

Re: What other front arms will work for an OLD IS NEW build?

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:38 pm
by fredswain
I've tried the JRX-Pro SE arms with the truck front bulkhead. You will need to grind down the bulkhead on each side to allow arm clearance. The arms are a bit wider than the RPM world's arms. If you use these arms with the B4 steering components, you do not need to use wide axles. The Pro-SE arms place the shocks quite far forward. You'll need to add a considerable amount of spacers to the upper shock mounting points to line the shocks up correctly. You will need to use the hinge pins from the JRX as well. A spacer will need to be used on the inner hinge pin since the JRX bulkhead and truck bulkhead have a different amount of material where the arms mount.

You can also use the standard JRX front arms or the Ultima front arms. Neither is swept back as far as the Pro-SE arms so your wheelbase will be longer. The sweep on the arms is necessary to keep the wheel height in relation to chassis as intended when the arms are level. The more front kickup the vehicle has, the more sweep the arms need. The JRX2 had a 20 degree kick. The Pro a 30 degree. The Pro arms are swept further back as a result. The RC10 has a 30 degree front kick.

Since the Ultima front arms are slightly longer than the JRX arms, if you run them with B4 front steering components, you'll be slightly wider than ROAR legal limits. Even with stock axles. You'd have to run stock RC10 steering components with those arms.

I have all of the above arms and have tried them all. Which ones did I finally settle on? The RPM worlds.