Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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R6cowboy wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:03 pm
radioactivity wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:49 pm
R6cowboy wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:26 pm Here's a pink label Trinity Monster Horsepower 1985-87 World Champions motor I tested out today. Motor has some gahones, 38,000+ rpm at 7.2 volts.

I don't see any Trinity Monster Horsepower motors listed in the reference guide. If anyone has info/specs on these motors please share.


image000000 (10).jpgTrinity pink label.jpg
I think I may have the same motor that R6cowboy showed months ago.
Label shows 12t 49,500 Rpm's
Recent find, NIB but does show some corrosion/rust from poor storage.


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Trinity Monster 12t.1.JPG
Yours is NIB and does not have the small strip of black tape around the top of the can and endbell. Was the black tape not factory applied on NIB motors?

Ok this is a lot all at once, lets start with. Yes Trinity Monsters are listed, there listed in 1700 Series and depending on the RPM it will help you narrow down the one you have, also if tape on endbell is intact its prob a good chance its original, also to keep in mined the 1700 series came in different turns and there was a few that had same decals, and some came in both graphite as well as aluminum endbells. The more known pink decal was RC# 1700 'NUCLEAR ASSAULT' (9 TURNS)
Highest RPM motor available. For Drag Racing or Truck Pulling (with TRINITY RC# Gear Reduction Unit) Aluminium Endbell 52,000 rpms, few years later pakaging went to blister packing and pink decal was on a few others at that pont. Same decal was done on most of there turns in black and I recall RC# 1708 'MAGIC SPEED JOEL JOHNSON
SIGNATURE' (17 TURNS]
The 1990's version of 1987 I.F.M.A.R. 2WD WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP winning motor, used by Joel "Magic' Johnson. Ultimate motor for sorted 2WD cars like JRX2, Ultima, RC10 etc. Composite Endbell
41,000 rpms. was done in green. There was also a few variations of RC 4449 *4.9 Chris Doseck™ Purple Motor Setup"
This is the latest 4.9 wet magnet motor setup that we use on our
"Chris Doseck™ World Championship Edition" modified. Everything is iricluded to build up a motor except the armature. Aluminum endbeil. Came in graphite and purple endbell as well as purple can and two types of decal one being the pink on a purple can also a signature on a purple can. So for the monster horspower motors most looked the same so best to narrow it down rpm check

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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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Added LRP Grand Prix II and X-Generation motors to the list. Also made a bunch of smaller additions and amendments.

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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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Frankentruck wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:03 pm I knew about Trinity motors and Kyosho cans, but I'd never seen a Checkpoint with a Kyosho can before.
Sorry for late comment.
Correct for Trinity, they used many Kyosho cans and there is a story how it started.

For Checkpoint.
Big Jim tried a lot of things and went to the extremes like maybe no other motor builder. And yes he had motors based on Kyosho and even AYK teardowns.
But these were prototype motors and not sold to the public.

From what I have seen so far Big Jim sold motors in this order
Igarashi
Yokomo (early version)
Platinum (his design)
Air Supply

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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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R6cowboy wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:03 pm
radioactivity wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:49 pm
R6cowboy wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:26 pm Here's a pink label Trinity Monster Horsepower 1985-87 World Champions motor I tested out today. Motor has some gahones, 38,000+ rpm at 7.2 volts.

I don't see any Trinity Monster Horsepower motors listed in the reference guide. If anyone has info/specs on these motors please share.


image000000 (10).jpgTrinity pink label.jpg
I think I may have the same motor that R6cowboy showed months ago.
Label shows 12t 49,500 Rpm's
Recent find, NIB but does show some corrosion/rust from poor storage.


Chuck


Trinity Monster 12t.1.JPG
Yours is NIB and does not have the small strip of black tape around the top of the can and endbell. Was the black tape not factory applied on NIB motors?
No, not all had tape. I have had several new ones that lacked tape. I have also had some taped one where the label is applied over a portion of the tape.
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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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jcwrks wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:30 am
R6cowboy wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:03 pm
radioactivity wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:49 pm
R6cowboy wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:26 pm Here's a pink label Trinity Monster Horsepower 1985-87 World Champions motor I tested out today. Motor has some gahones, 38,000+ rpm at 7.2 volts.

I don't see any Trinity Monster Horsepower motors listed in the reference guide. If anyone has info/specs on these motors please share.


image000000 (10).jpgTrinity pink label.jpg
I think I may have the same motor that R6cowboy showed months ago.
Label shows 12t 49,500 Rpm's
Recent find, NIB but does show some corrosion/rust from poor storage.


Chuck


Trinity Monster 12t.1.JPG
Yours is NIB and does not have the small strip of black tape around the top of the can and endbell. Was the black tape not factory applied on NIB motors?
No, not all had tape. I have had several new ones that lacked tape. I have also had some taped one where the label is applied over a portion of the tape.
Good to know. Thanks
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Added a bunch of Redline motor specs.

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Did the AYK Magnum 360L come with a Kyosho aluminum endbell? I feel like it's a NO and this endbell maybe was borrowed from a Kyosho SPA motor. Thoughts?
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AYK motors always had their own parts. They never used parts from other manufacturers.
Same goes for Kyosho, because both of them were real manufacturers. No rewinders or motor builders.

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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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V12 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:21 am AYK motors always had their own parts. They never used parts from other manufacturers.
Same goes for Kyosho, because both of them were real manufacturers. No rewinders or motor builders.
So it was from a short lived unholy business merger between AYK and Kyosho!!! 🤪 :D
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Frankentruck wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:28 am
V12 wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:21 am AYK motors always had their own parts. They never used parts from other manufacturers.
Same goes for Kyosho, because both of them were real manufacturers. No rewinders or motor builders.
So it was from a short lived unholy business merger between AYK and Kyosho!!! 🤪 :D
You seem to excel in obtaining frankenmotors. :mrgreen:
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Added additional specs to a bunch of Parma motors.

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Added Schumacher Ultra Modified motor specs.

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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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1022 27x1 Bullet Stock (Silver Can With Pink, Purple, Blue Bullet Label)
1022-P 27x1 Bullet Pro Stock (Silver Can With Pink, Purple, Blue Bullet Pro Label)

@Lowgear one additional descriptor is that the regular 1022 Bullet has a gold label and the Pro is a silver label.
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Does anyone happen to know if any of the Revtech 27T motors had a silver can with the "REVTECH" label clear and hunter green? Not a green can. I swear my REVTECH stock motor was silver and hunter green, but I can't find any info on label colors for REVTECH. I assume each color was unique to a certain spec motor but I don't know for sure. I would find it unusual if they aren't.
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Re: Ultimate Vintage Brushed Motor Reference Guide (Discussion Topic)

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THEYTOOKMYTHUMB wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:01 pm Does anyone happen to know if any of the Revtech 27T motors had a silver can with the "REVTECH" label clear and hunter green? Not a green can. I swear my REVTECH stock motor was silver and hunter green, but I can't find any info on label colors for REVTECH. I assume each color was unique to a certain spec motor but I don't know for sure. I would find it unusual if they aren't.
1984 Revtech Motors

4107 27x1 Pro Stock
4113 27x1 Esprit Stock
4115 27x1 Maxima Stock
4118 27x1 Offroad Stock
31109 9x1 Accelerator
31116 16x1 Express
31120 20x1 Contest Pro
31122 22x1 Enduro
31123 23x1 Enduro II
31214 14x2 Track Scorcher
31221 21x2 Turbo Enduro
31310 10x2 Maniac
31311 11x3 Turbo Sizzler
31313 13x3 Scorcher
31317 17x3 Turbo Sprint
31318 18x2 Sprint
31319 19x3 Contest Gold
31412 12x4 California Sizzler
31415 15x4 Turbo Express
33117 17x1 Carpet Sweeper
33216 16x2 Rug Ripper
33315 15x3 Magic Carpet
33414 14x4 Rug Rocket
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