Motor Collection - Old School Horsepower

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Re: Motor Collection - Old School Horsepower

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Re: Motor Collection - Old School Horsepower

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Mine doesn’t have any engraved marks like that anywhere.. There is a white paint mark on the windings.. the label is also yellow/maroon vs the yellow/red..that may be just a difference in the reproduction label. Any way to ohm test these to find out?
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not that i know of....someone might have put that on mine. I have a "Killer" in a jrx2 but havent got around to pulling it out yet to look. Your armature is the "Real Deal" tho, you can tell by the welded windings on the comm....cheap arms are crimped
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Re: Motor Collection - Old School Horsepower

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That I engraving is factory but not all of them had it. I have WetMag II and a WetMag IV with a II and IV engraved in the same place.
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Re: Motor Collection - Old School Horsepower

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BattleTrak wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:07 pm Mine doesn’t have any engraved marks like that anywhere.. There is a white paint mark on the windings.. the label is also yellow/maroon vs the yellow/red..that may be just a difference in the reproduction label. Any way to ohm test these to find out?
if you have access to an inductance meter you can determine the number of turns the arm has. You would need a comparison chart to check. It should get you in the ball park. The number of winds are easy. Just count the number of wires crimped or welded to one of the poles.

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I have picked up a few very unusual and early MG's recently, all in very tidy condition.

Firstly an MG 18 Single Red Dot Buggy Special. Looks to have had very little use. This is the second MG i have seen where the original endbell lettering has been machined off.
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Next is another gold label MG Magnum. This one is an 18 Single (L) spec, signed by Mick, but is slightly unusual as it is based on an AYK can/endbell combo and has a Buggy Special label on the reverse side. The 18x1 writing will clean off i think, but i don't want to rub it too hard. One of the endbell plates also has 24K stamped into it, which i haven't seen before?
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Next up is a bit of a special...a really lovely condition MG Magnum Buggy Special 18 Double.... with the added curiosity of having been converted to slot brushes. This is the second slot converted MG i have come across (both are of a slightly different endbell plate layout/configuration), and i have messaged Mick G. about this one for a little more info.
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Unused MG Magnum 15Quad, which was the hottest spec offered by MG for 1986/87. I have never seen another gold label MG in this condition before as the stickers were basically just gold paper and did not last well at all.
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MG red dot plus, HPI-based with an unusual 16 Hex armature.
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That 16 hex is bad freak'n ass!
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That's a fantastic collection of motors. There's quite a few that I've never heard of before.
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Couple more here.... these came from a chap who used to visit the Sagami factory with Nick Adams of Demon Motors (he actually told me he has some pictures from inside the Sagami factory somewhere and is hoping to dig them out....)

Anyway, the first is a Demon label i have not come across before, with 'RACE MOTOR' lettering. It is a fixed timing, graphite bearing 21 Double. These were sold as a budget club-spec motor in 1987-88. Nice mild 2WD motor I would suggest.
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Next up is another Sagami-based motor, unusually having the normal Demon square cane base holes and even a Demon logo endbell, but has a TQ Racing label on it. I have never seen or heard of a TQ Racing motor before. There was a TQ Models model shop in the Uk at that time, so my only guess is that Nick made up a batch of his motors and relabeled them for sale through that shop for a time. Cool label anyway, and a great and unusual addition to the collection. I haven't opened it up to check the armature spec yet.

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Re: Motor Collection - Old School Horsepower

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Nick Adams was also experimenting with aluminium windings on his armatures, and here is an example of one such armature. No idea of the spect at this stage but worthwhile me testing it out i think.
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Another cool find is a blank, open silver Sagami can and unused Demon endbell, complete with a blank armature and a note accompanying it saying 'Wind your own'.... The base of the can has a JAPAN stamping, which the usual black can Demons do not, so I can only presume this might have been some sort of early sample sent out to Nick Adams?
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Just a quick note on here to point any Fb users who may be interested.... there is now a Vintage Demon RC Fb Group which has plenty of information relating to Demon Power products.
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