Basher 6 gear transmission

General discussion, builds/restorations, etc...

Moderators: scr8p, klavy69

User avatar
Frankentruck
Super Member
Posts: 3642
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:59 am
Location: Texas, USA
Has thanked: 2477 times
Been thanked: 2782 times

Basher 6 gear transmission

Post by Frankentruck »

Over the last couple of years I've come across two TQ10 buggies that were converted to trucks and then were beat on mercilessly. The first had the transmission converted to a really smooth running Thorp 48p setup. That went into my Frankenshorty race replica. This is what I found in the second one. This seems like it will be a good basis for a 6 gear basher build.
.
1000015191.jpg
.
I've heard of out drives being trimmed and used as steel idler gears. That might be what these are. However if so, then they also got a bevel trim. Anyone know if aftermarket steel idlers were ever sold?
.
1000015194.jpg
.
I was also going to put a lock ring Jamming Jay diff tube in it, but it looks to have a Losi Performance bearing supported diff tube. I'll dig out a set of D-rings and see if there is enough material there with the bearing setup to still modify the diff tube to work with a D-ring.
.
1000015195.jpg
Frankensteined RC10T3 / Franky Jr RC10GT-e (x2) / A+ stamp / Toy Story RC / Graphite replica / B1.5 BFG 5LTi / Clonewald / Hyper Hornet

"I love the effort, but it sure looks like you took the long way around to a tub again"

User avatar
juicedcoupe
Super Member
Posts: 3431
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:05 pm
Location: Pascagoula, MS
Has thanked: 264 times
Been thanked: 2007 times

Re: Basher 6 gear transmission

Post by juicedcoupe »

They were likely beveled for clearance at the input shaft.

Outdrives are thicker than idle gears, and I've seen idlers nicked up on the edge before.
Always looking for new and interesting ways to waste money.

User avatar
icanfixyourford
Regular Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:49 pm
Location: Edgewood, Maryland
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: Basher 6 gear transmission

Post by icanfixyourford »

This is interesting, I was just working on the 6gear for my build, and had the same revelation.

The parts lot I bought had a second trans, with the dogbone cups being very worn.
After a few measurements, I decided to cut down the outdrives to make idlers.

The outdrive gears are the same thickness as the idlers, and align fine if you flip them over.
Attachments
IMG_20250402_193552524.jpg
IMG_20250402_193548355.jpg
IMG_20250331_212150085.jpg
IMG_20250331_212050443.jpg
IMG_20250331_212010579.jpg
IMG_20250331_212003710.jpg
IMG_20250331_211603666.jpg
IMG_20250331_211541285.jpg
IMG_20250331_211525072.jpg
Jim

User avatar
icanfixyourford
Regular Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:49 pm
Location: Edgewood, Maryland
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 13 times

Re: Basher 6 gear transmission

Post by icanfixyourford »

Frankentruck wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:06 pm I've heard of out drives being trimmed and used as steel idler gears. That might be what these are. However if so, then they also got a bevel trim. Anyone know if aftermarket steel idlers were ever sold?
Bevelling a straight cut gear isn't unheard of in powersports. It's usually done to decrease drag and parasitic losses, when the gear strength is greater than the expected input torque. I suspect that's what the previous builder had in mind.
Jim

User avatar
Frankentruck
Super Member
Posts: 3642
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:59 am
Location: Texas, USA
Has thanked: 2477 times
Been thanked: 2782 times

Re: Basher 6 gear transmission

Post by Frankentruck »

My top shaft diff gears were horribly worn and rough.
They were like the teeth were made of Velcro, snagging as they meshed with any 32 pitch gear I tried them on. I could have cleaned them up with a file, but they are very worn and a had a new set leftover from my RC10cc that got a Thorp 48 pitch gear set. I added external out drive bearings and everything is smooth and well supported.
.
1000015264.jpg
.
I didn't do the D-rings. This diff tube is steel and I really didn't want to spend the time to file it down. It's easier to make those snaps decisions and live with the final results with aluminum. :mrgreen:
Frankensteined RC10T3 / Franky Jr RC10GT-e (x2) / A+ stamp / Toy Story RC / Graphite replica / B1.5 BFG 5LTi / Clonewald / Hyper Hornet

"I love the effort, but it sure looks like you took the long way around to a tub again"

User avatar
Frankentruck
Super Member
Posts: 3642
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:59 am
Location: Texas, USA
Has thanked: 2477 times
Been thanked: 2782 times

Re: Basher 6 gear transmission

Post by Frankentruck »

icanfixyourford wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:30 pm This is interesting, I was just working on the 6gear for my build, and had the same revelation.

The parts lot I bought had a second trans, with the dogbone cups being very worn.
After a few measurements, I decided to cut down the outdrives to make idlers.

The outdrive gears are the same thickness as the idlers, and align fine if you flip them over.
Even using a 4 jaw chuck. Nice!
Frankensteined RC10T3 / Franky Jr RC10GT-e (x2) / A+ stamp / Toy Story RC / Graphite replica / B1.5 BFG 5LTi / Clonewald / Hyper Hornet

"I love the effort, but it sure looks like you took the long way around to a tub again"

Create an account or sign in to join the discussion

You need to be a member in order to post a reply

Create an account

Not a member? register to join our community
Members can start their own topics & subscribe to topics
It’s free and only takes a minute

Register

Sign in

  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “RC10 Buggy Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No User AvatarBing [Bot], No User AvatarDotNetDotCom.org [Bot], No User AvatarGoogle Adsense [Bot], No User Avatarpedro and 18 guests