Demon motor thread - no others please
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Demon motor thread - no others please
Thread dedicated to the wonderful motors of Nick Adams (RIP) of Demon Power Products.
No other motors please.
There are pictures and discussion about Demon motors spread over the forum.
But it´s quite a bit difficult to follow so I would like to concentrate everything about these motors here.
I will start with the motor I bought from Nick at the 1985 Offroad Euros.
I had a Demon Reedy Silver Dot (Double 21T) before, which I bought as used from my race buddy.
My very first real modified motor for the RC10.
I used to know Nick since a couple of years because my race buddy was selling Demon motors, speedos and batteries.
And we had visiting Nick I think since around 1979 or 1980. Well for racing 1/12 scale.
Now at the 1985 Offroad Euros Nick received a box of team motors from Mike Reedy ... and I was the first to notice that.
Well of course I had to ask Nick if he maybe would have an extra motor for me ...
Yes he had one for me so I got that Green A Dot (Quad 19T).
The Demon motor labels of course never mentioned anything about Reedy, but if the label said `Modified' it was a Reedy.
Well that´s for the early Demon Yokomo motors.
The Silver and Gold Dot motors were available as Reedy and Demon versions and exactly the same wind.
But the Green A seems to be a Demon only version. At least I never heard of a Reedy Green A.
I´m also not sure if that Green A ever was sold to the public. But maybe someone have seen a Demon ad about this.
Time frame is 1985/1986.
The label says Offroad Demon Power BRCA Legal | Modified |Special.
| means the label is cutted at this position. This means there was no label with these wordings but three parts of labels were used.
There was no phone number at this early label.
No other motors please.
There are pictures and discussion about Demon motors spread over the forum.
But it´s quite a bit difficult to follow so I would like to concentrate everything about these motors here.
I will start with the motor I bought from Nick at the 1985 Offroad Euros.
I had a Demon Reedy Silver Dot (Double 21T) before, which I bought as used from my race buddy.
My very first real modified motor for the RC10.
I used to know Nick since a couple of years because my race buddy was selling Demon motors, speedos and batteries.
And we had visiting Nick I think since around 1979 or 1980. Well for racing 1/12 scale.
Now at the 1985 Offroad Euros Nick received a box of team motors from Mike Reedy ... and I was the first to notice that.
Well of course I had to ask Nick if he maybe would have an extra motor for me ...
Yes he had one for me so I got that Green A Dot (Quad 19T).
The Demon motor labels of course never mentioned anything about Reedy, but if the label said `Modified' it was a Reedy.
Well that´s for the early Demon Yokomo motors.
The Silver and Gold Dot motors were available as Reedy and Demon versions and exactly the same wind.
But the Green A seems to be a Demon only version. At least I never heard of a Reedy Green A.
I´m also not sure if that Green A ever was sold to the public. But maybe someone have seen a Demon ad about this.
Time frame is 1985/1986.
The label says Offroad Demon Power BRCA Legal | Modified |Special.
| means the label is cutted at this position. This means there was no label with these wordings but three parts of labels were used.
There was no phone number at this early label.
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Windings at the commutator are tied. Please see picture 3.
This motor was one of my fastest motors ever and hard to make runtime. But this was also when batteries were 1200s.
My Silver Dot has gone, but I still have the Green A at my collection. And never will leave my home.
This motor was one of my fastest motors ever and hard to make runtime. But this was also when batteries were 1200s.
My Silver Dot has gone, but I still have the Green A at my collection. And never will leave my home.
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Another Demon motor based on the Yokomo can was the Demon Pink.
I received this motor from Nick in I think 1985 also. It was his personal prototype motor.
He tried this motor in the RC10 and told me it´s not good but I should try at my car and our races.
Beside the RC10 I bought also a Hirobo Zerda which was my first 4WD offroad car then. Got the mid motor conversion right from the beginning. So gear drive for the motor replacing the first stage belt drive. Sometimes I was competing at very small tracks and the Pink was perfect there. Enough power and lots of runtime.
Yokomo Modified can and Double 22T machine wound armature.
The label says Offroad Demon Power BRCA Legal Double Wind Special.
No phone number again.
I´m not sure if this motor was released to the public, maybe using a different dot or name.
Unfortunately I can´t locate the armature now. But I still have the can.
I received this motor from Nick in I think 1985 also. It was his personal prototype motor.
He tried this motor in the RC10 and told me it´s not good but I should try at my car and our races.
Beside the RC10 I bought also a Hirobo Zerda which was my first 4WD offroad car then. Got the mid motor conversion right from the beginning. So gear drive for the motor replacing the first stage belt drive. Sometimes I was competing at very small tracks and the Pink was perfect there. Enough power and lots of runtime.
Yokomo Modified can and Double 22T machine wound armature.
The label says Offroad Demon Power BRCA Legal Double Wind Special.
No phone number again.
I´m not sure if this motor was released to the public, maybe using a different dot or name.
Unfortunately I can´t locate the armature now. But I still have the can.
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Great thread - thanks for this. Was an informative read. I was quite surprised to read the early Reedy link as I was not aware of that, but i have just had a skim through of some early Demon adverts and located some Reedy listings with the typical coloured Reedy Dot nomenclature along with some letters. My main interest in the earlier Demon adverts is to source info on the various ESC offerings so i never really paid much attention to the motors listed.
I myself have quite a few Demon motors from various eras, as well as some experimental motors which came directly from Nick, and also from team Demon drivers. Nick used to send his motors to shops who issued them to their team drivers and often with re-labelling to reflect the shop or team sponsorship.
I have posted up the experimental alloy winding armature i received in another thread, and also the R&M Models Team Demon motor which was built for team Demon driver Chris Boakes and was machined to take twin bearings at the endbell end. I also have a TQ Models Demon motor - the TQ Models team drivers all being sponsored by Demon motors. Such badge-engineering was commonplace at that time.
I have a few early Yokomo-spec Demon motors, and it is noted that Nick actually began stamping D E M O N lettering around the bearing. Have your examples got this feature? I also have a couple with Yokomo-esq endbells but with Sagami lettering. I will post up a few examples below. Some of mine are from the early silver Yokomo can era, as well as some of the short-lived red base-plate Sagami format.
I myself have quite a few Demon motors from various eras, as well as some experimental motors which came directly from Nick, and also from team Demon drivers. Nick used to send his motors to shops who issued them to their team drivers and often with re-labelling to reflect the shop or team sponsorship.
I have posted up the experimental alloy winding armature i received in another thread, and also the R&M Models Team Demon motor which was built for team Demon driver Chris Boakes and was machined to take twin bearings at the endbell end. I also have a TQ Models Demon motor - the TQ Models team drivers all being sponsored by Demon motors. Such badge-engineering was commonplace at that time.
I have a few early Yokomo-spec Demon motors, and it is noted that Nick actually began stamping D E M O N lettering around the bearing. Have your examples got this feature? I also have a couple with Yokomo-esq endbells but with Sagami lettering. I will post up a few examples below. Some of mine are from the early silver Yokomo can era, as well as some of the short-lived red base-plate Sagami format.
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Here's a 35T 1/12th motor in a silver can format with Sagami lettered endbell. This came from JImmy Davis and was a team-issued motor. Not sure what the green dot signifies?
Interesting that this motor also has bronze bushings as opposed to the grey graphite bushings Nick typically went for in his motors.
I have also come across some original; 35T red prism label strips which confirms these thin strip details were indeed separate parts added to the motors below a more generic label section.
Interesting that this motor also has bronze bushings as opposed to the grey graphite bushings Nick typically went for in his motors.
I have also come across some original; 35T red prism label strips which confirms these thin strip details were indeed separate parts added to the motors below a more generic label section.
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Silver can Single HT with graphite bushings and crude Demon stamping around a Yokomo endbell.
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Unsoldered never run silver can Mister T Special, again with a crudely stamped Demon Yokomo endbell and graphite bushings.
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From late '86 to early '87 Nick used a red base-plate Sagami design along with his now bespoke Sagami Demon endbells. I have a few examples of these.
22D Mister T 'Rory Cull' Double Wind Modified (came in Rory Cull's RRC Series winning Hotshot - he was sponsored by Demon at that time). I believe this to be a 22D based on the advert.
22D Mister T 'Rory Cull' Double Wind Modified (came in Rory Cull's RRC Series winning Hotshot - he was sponsored by Demon at that time). I believe this to be a 22D based on the advert.
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Race Motor 21D
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My 16Triple modified from 1987. Freshly rebuilt and still going strong.
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Unused 27T standard with 30degrees advance and gold endbell jewellery. These two features identify this as a later spec standard motor.
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Quad Wind with original paperwork.
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Later gold label 27turn standard with 30degree advance. No idea what the sticker signifies?
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Later gold label Power King 12Double.
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My band of demons is small, but they still make an evil hiss when spun. I just don't know much about them other than they are cool as heck. The one with the small label makes me wonder if it has been trimmed down to remove all text.
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The gold label Power King is the only one with a removable end bell. It's a single wind and has 84313223 on the armature.
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The gold label Power King is the only one with a removable end bell. It's a single wind and has 84313223 on the armature.
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