Hilux/King Cab - Kyosho tranny swap
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:23 am
So I saw a "Vintage Truck" for cheap on the Bay, and even though it had no body, I knew immediately from the picture that it was a Hilux Monster Racer/King Cab l and I had to jump on it.
When the package arrived, it was dirty, had Clodbuster shocks, Hilux body mounts and tires with King Cab rims, and the most random assortment of screws, nut, bolts, turnbuckles, etc., but everything that was included seemed to be in working order. I threw a receiver and battery in it an hit the driveway for a test, and could tell immediately that there was a significant amount of slippage in the diff. So it went on the basement shelf with the rest of the projects that I "will get around to any day now" and sat. I already had a running King Cab so the itch to get it going wasn't too bad, and honestly I originally purchased it to flip.
Fast forward a month and while on a conference call in my new basement "office" where Covid has forced me, I was reading about the Stealth tranny conversion kits that people used to use. Now, these kits are near impossible to find unless you really want to drop some coin, I don't have an extra Stealth laying around, and I'm super cheap so I wasn't about to buy either piece. However, what I do have is a Kyosho Outrage "project" that I'm never realistically going to tackle and an idle mind from being stuck in the house for so long. For those who don't know, from comparisons against my Ultima Turbo and Ultima II, the Outrage seems to have the exact same transmission, so parts should be plentiful and it should be able to handle a little extra power.
After pulling the gearboxes out, I realized that the Tamiya has a little more sweep and is used to support the back half of the chassis. The motorplate on the Kyosho also came down a little lower. Since I will still potentially offload this truck one day (I won't, but still), I didn't want to modify any of the Tamiya parts.
Back to the Bay for a piece of fiberglass to make a new mounting plate. Since the transmission won't be used to support the chassis, I went for a 3mm piece which is a little thicker than the original. I also added an inch to the length so the less aggressive sweep of the Kyosho parts would fit under the Tamiya chassis.
First, if you are going to cut this stuff, make sure you have a way to control the dust because it is everywhere and probably as damaging to lungs as viruses in the coronona family. Also, learn from my mistakes and don't tap into the fermentation of corn and cereal grain until after you are done cutting. Anyway, a few hours and glasses of Kentucky's best export and I hit the driveway for another test. Sure enough, the Outrage transmission did and excellent job!
Now that I have a working concept, I'll throw a little more power in it for a real test. Once we get on the backside of this craziness, I'll probably grab a re-po body, some decent shocks, and make a real runner out of it.
Stay tuned and I'll update this thread with some better pics when I tear this experiment down for a good cleaning and rebuild.
When the package arrived, it was dirty, had Clodbuster shocks, Hilux body mounts and tires with King Cab rims, and the most random assortment of screws, nut, bolts, turnbuckles, etc., but everything that was included seemed to be in working order. I threw a receiver and battery in it an hit the driveway for a test, and could tell immediately that there was a significant amount of slippage in the diff. So it went on the basement shelf with the rest of the projects that I "will get around to any day now" and sat. I already had a running King Cab so the itch to get it going wasn't too bad, and honestly I originally purchased it to flip.
Fast forward a month and while on a conference call in my new basement "office" where Covid has forced me, I was reading about the Stealth tranny conversion kits that people used to use. Now, these kits are near impossible to find unless you really want to drop some coin, I don't have an extra Stealth laying around, and I'm super cheap so I wasn't about to buy either piece. However, what I do have is a Kyosho Outrage "project" that I'm never realistically going to tackle and an idle mind from being stuck in the house for so long. For those who don't know, from comparisons against my Ultima Turbo and Ultima II, the Outrage seems to have the exact same transmission, so parts should be plentiful and it should be able to handle a little extra power.
After pulling the gearboxes out, I realized that the Tamiya has a little more sweep and is used to support the back half of the chassis. The motorplate on the Kyosho also came down a little lower. Since I will still potentially offload this truck one day (I won't, but still), I didn't want to modify any of the Tamiya parts.
Back to the Bay for a piece of fiberglass to make a new mounting plate. Since the transmission won't be used to support the chassis, I went for a 3mm piece which is a little thicker than the original. I also added an inch to the length so the less aggressive sweep of the Kyosho parts would fit under the Tamiya chassis.
First, if you are going to cut this stuff, make sure you have a way to control the dust because it is everywhere and probably as damaging to lungs as viruses in the coronona family. Also, learn from my mistakes and don't tap into the fermentation of corn and cereal grain until after you are done cutting. Anyway, a few hours and glasses of Kentucky's best export and I hit the driveway for another test. Sure enough, the Outrage transmission did and excellent job!
Now that I have a working concept, I'll throw a little more power in it for a real test. Once we get on the backside of this craziness, I'll probably grab a re-po body, some decent shocks, and make a real runner out of it.
Stay tuned and I'll update this thread with some better pics when I tear this experiment down for a good cleaning and rebuild.