Impress Formula 1 build thread
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:19 am
As I mentioned a few weeks ago in the "So what did you get in the post today"-thread, I received a Kyosho Impress wreck as well as some parts for the Impress.
The Impress is Kyosho's mid-1990s electric Formula 1 car, and is an evolution of their earlier 1993 F1 cars. Meant as competition for Tamiya's F101 and F102 chassis, those suffered from soft plastics (especially the plastic chassis) and fragile parts, leading to underwhelming performance. Various options were available, such as a carbon chassis, alloy shock and motor mount, alloy diff, etc., but the car never met the success of its Tamiya equivalents. The Impress is the competition version of that chassis, with many improvements such as a standard FRP chassis, adjustable rear wing, front suspension with variable camber, the steering servo in upright position (like on the Tamiya F103), etc. Further optional parts were brought out, including a link conversion set that also replaced the upper front arms with a fully adjustable version. With all options installed, it was apparently a pretty good car.
This will be a build thread about that car. It will be followed by another build thread in another subforum that will cover its descendant, but more about that later...
What I'm starting with is the wreck shown below:
I mostly bought this because it was a cheap way of obtaining a few of the more expensive options: alloy motor mount and a NIP alloy ball diff set. The car also includes half a alloy t-bar mount, but I already have the complete set sitting in a box somewhere. The chassis included is the optional carbon chassis, which unfortunately has some additional holes drilled into it. The chassis also has some front end damage due to a hard frontal impact. The top deck is broken and one lower arm is damaged.
After taking the wreck apart today to check the condition of the other parts, I discovered both lower arms had cracked screw holes, and so did the broken top deck. The upper arms are somewhat warped. The t-bar and carbon chassis both appear to be slightly warped. Furthermore, wear on the chassis indicates it likely was used on the earlier 1993 model of the car, as some screw holes that aren't used on the Impress have marks. Some of the hardware has stripped heads, so it will also be thrown away. I did however encounter some titanium screws in good condition.
So after discarding the truly broken parts I have the following:
- somewhat damaged front wing with okay front body post
- slightly warped t-bar and optional chassis, chassis has various non-standard holes
- half an alloy t-bar mount set
- used spares for the motor pod rear and left side, upper battery deck + body posts, plastic front t-bar mount, servo mount
- a bunch of screws and nuts
- optional alloy motor mount, a bit dirty
- NIP alloy diff set
In my boxes of spares I should have:
- NIP FJW-4 alloy t-bar mount set
- various front uprights
- two sets of wheels + tires
- possibly a Cross king pin set for the original 1993 chassis
- NIP FJW-23 chassis protector
As mentioned in the other thread I also bought some optional parts: - NIP white adjustable rear wing
- NIP lower front arms
- NIP FJW-20 suspension kit, which converts the t-bar car to a link car with Trinity Evolution 10-style front suspension
Waiting for transit are:
- NIB Kyosho Impress car kit
- NIP alloy shock set, which I need anyway to be able to use the FJW-20 option
Just bought on Ebay:
- NIP upper front arms
- NIP FJW-21 king pin kit
Things to buy:
- FJW-5 spring set
- carbon axle
- new carbon chassis
- FJW-22 hard (?) diff rings
- a body that fits, which may be problematic because although the front and rear wing mounts are Tamiya compatible the chassis itself has a shorter wheelbase than Tamiya F1's. However, some of the body molds are supposedly still used by manufacturers other than Kyosho...
The Impress is Kyosho's mid-1990s electric Formula 1 car, and is an evolution of their earlier 1993 F1 cars. Meant as competition for Tamiya's F101 and F102 chassis, those suffered from soft plastics (especially the plastic chassis) and fragile parts, leading to underwhelming performance. Various options were available, such as a carbon chassis, alloy shock and motor mount, alloy diff, etc., but the car never met the success of its Tamiya equivalents. The Impress is the competition version of that chassis, with many improvements such as a standard FRP chassis, adjustable rear wing, front suspension with variable camber, the steering servo in upright position (like on the Tamiya F103), etc. Further optional parts were brought out, including a link conversion set that also replaced the upper front arms with a fully adjustable version. With all options installed, it was apparently a pretty good car.
This will be a build thread about that car. It will be followed by another build thread in another subforum that will cover its descendant, but more about that later...
What I'm starting with is the wreck shown below:
I mostly bought this because it was a cheap way of obtaining a few of the more expensive options: alloy motor mount and a NIP alloy ball diff set. The car also includes half a alloy t-bar mount, but I already have the complete set sitting in a box somewhere. The chassis included is the optional carbon chassis, which unfortunately has some additional holes drilled into it. The chassis also has some front end damage due to a hard frontal impact. The top deck is broken and one lower arm is damaged.
After taking the wreck apart today to check the condition of the other parts, I discovered both lower arms had cracked screw holes, and so did the broken top deck. The upper arms are somewhat warped. The t-bar and carbon chassis both appear to be slightly warped. Furthermore, wear on the chassis indicates it likely was used on the earlier 1993 model of the car, as some screw holes that aren't used on the Impress have marks. Some of the hardware has stripped heads, so it will also be thrown away. I did however encounter some titanium screws in good condition.
So after discarding the truly broken parts I have the following:
- somewhat damaged front wing with okay front body post
- slightly warped t-bar and optional chassis, chassis has various non-standard holes
- half an alloy t-bar mount set
- used spares for the motor pod rear and left side, upper battery deck + body posts, plastic front t-bar mount, servo mount
- a bunch of screws and nuts
- optional alloy motor mount, a bit dirty
- NIP alloy diff set
In my boxes of spares I should have:
- NIP FJW-4 alloy t-bar mount set
- various front uprights
- two sets of wheels + tires
- possibly a Cross king pin set for the original 1993 chassis
- NIP FJW-23 chassis protector
As mentioned in the other thread I also bought some optional parts: - NIP white adjustable rear wing
- NIP lower front arms
- NIP FJW-20 suspension kit, which converts the t-bar car to a link car with Trinity Evolution 10-style front suspension
Waiting for transit are:
- NIB Kyosho Impress car kit
- NIP alloy shock set, which I need anyway to be able to use the FJW-20 option
Just bought on Ebay:
- NIP upper front arms
- NIP FJW-21 king pin kit
Things to buy:
- FJW-5 spring set
- carbon axle
- new carbon chassis
- FJW-22 hard (?) diff rings
- a body that fits, which may be problematic because although the front and rear wing mounts are Tamiya compatible the chassis itself has a shorter wheelbase than Tamiya F1's. However, some of the body molds are supposedly still used by manufacturers other than Kyosho...