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trackmaster market time

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:42 am
by Mr. ED
Does anybody have some info on which trakmaster products hit the market at what time?

I'm mostly interested in info about the trackmaster belt-drive for the ultima.
If I ever get it (e-bay worries) I would like to find a spare diff allso: to build a custom 4WD!
Were these ever sold? Or did you have to buy the full kit allways?

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:34 am
by Mr. ED
sorry for bumping this up,
I have found out there never was an ultima version :oops: and left the idea of going 4wd with this.

But I still really need to know if this rc10 version with belt is pre-90 or not: for another vintage project I can't tell more about just yet :mrgreen:

Toybaron? I saw you just won one, maybe you have more info on it

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:36 am
by Asso_man!
Doug is coming back form Spa Francorchamps and will pop in in 3, 2, 1... :)

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:42 am
by tulsa
Mr. ED wrote:sorry for bumping this up,
I have found out there never was an ultima version :oops: and left the idea of going 4wd with this.

But I still really need to know if this rc10 version with belt is pre-90 or not: for another vintage project I can't tell more about just yet :mrgreen:

Toybaron? I saw you just won one, maybe you have more info on it
i have one on my ultima and it fit with no mods :|

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:43 am
by Eau Rouge
I have one now but I never ran them back then. I always thought they really had way too much bind in them to be fast. The belts were stiff and the diffs never felt smooth enough for me. I always ran chain drives (TPS) or gear drives (MIP) in any car that wasn't a Stealth diff.

Sorry, I don't know too much about them. Other than I have one of their dirt oval chassis sitting on the shelf. :D

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:57 am
by Mr. ED
Hey tulsa,
Looks like I jumped to a conclusion too fast.
Do the L-shaped pieces stretch under the bulkhead and rear arm mount?
The side plates look taller too: to attach to the rearbulkhead at the top clearly.

I remember seeing the ads in RCCA, but my old mag's are stocked far over-sea.
Can no-one tell in which year their ads ran first; that 'd give me a clue if it is critical to find out the market time?
Or maybe someone has the leaflet with a print date on it?

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:02 am
by tulsa
Mr. ED wrote:Hey tulsa,
Looks like I jumped to a conclusion too fast.
Do the L-shaped pieces stretch under the bulkhead and rear arm mount?
The side plates look taller too: to attach to the rearbulkhead at the top clearly.

I remember seeing the ads in RCCA, but my old mag's are stocked far over-sea.
Can no-one tell in which year their ads ran first; that 'd give me a clue if it is critical to find out the market time?
Or maybe someone has the leaflet with a print date on it?
i think the plates are only under the arm mounts but not shure. i will check it out tonight and have you more info. i can't help on the time line.

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:06 am
by Mr. ED
no need to take it apart: I got the rc10 version and am not planning on putting new L-shaped parts on it. Had to build a custom chassis anyway and that's already drilled to work with the current parts.

I also drilled the chassis for a standard ultima gearbox but eall y hope I can leave the trackmaster on this project and race it in vintage class

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:58 am
by GAMMACRUSH
my trackmaster tranny it says it fits [stock rc10, stock ultima, mid engine, sprint car, off-road] it is an '89 :wink: ygpm ed on the info
my exact trackmaster is the trackmaster turbo glide belt drive, which is the carbon fiber one.
:edit: looks very similar if not the same as Tulsa's trackmaster.
it says "1/1/89 pricelist" on the pamphlet that came with the instructions. i would scan the instructions but i dont have a scanner... my friend has one i can try it looks like it would scan good. maybe someone else will chime in before i do.

:edit:
the short part of the "L" with smaller holes bolts to the tranny sides. the longer sides of the "L" with the bigger holes mounts to the chassis, under the arm mounts with the notched parts of the L facing behind the diff outdrives.

please feel free to ask any questions and i will look at the instructions

peace,
gamma

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:18 pm
by highwayracer
It looks like they made 3 versions of the belt drive and 2 versions of the direct drive. When I say versions, I mean styles...they offered both aluminum and graphite versions. So there were a total of 10 different models.

I beleive the first transmission in each picture is the ultima version.

Below is what's reflected in my catalog:
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Regards,
highwayracer

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:19 pm
by highwayracer
btw, those were from the 1990 catalog.

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:25 pm
by GAMMACRUSH
kool highway way to come thru!

my instructions are for the one before that one i guess... it is the belt version too. it says "turbo glide belt drive transmission" but not xcaliber. just to clarify mine.

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:46 pm
by highwayracer
I had the graphite version of the x caliber. After rebuilding the diff, it was pretty smooth for a regular ball diff, but not "stealth" smooth. The graphite versions had black anodized aluminum plate spacers, while the aluminum versions had the non-anodized plate spacers. I sold mine on ebay last year for about $50.
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Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:47 pm
by toybaron
I have recently bought two of these (ebay) and I would be happy to help if I can...do you need a pic or scan of the directions? Or sonmthing you want me to investigate?

let me know,

Ron

Re: trackmaster market time

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:00 am
by Mr. ED
Thanks guys this info is most helpful.
The one I have is the the one on the right in the picture with 3 turbo-glides side by side.

Gamma says he found a mention : price list effective 1/1/89
If some one could scan that page, I can print it out and take that: so there's no discussion on whether it is legal in pre-90 vintage races.