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Son of a........... Internet/Tad Help

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:22 pm
by mrlexan
OK, This REALLY SUCKS! I mentioned earlier that work recently blocked ebay access on the net. Well between this morning and lunch, NOW I can't even access the forum. They use Websense. Any of you internet savy guys know any techy ways around this? I am serious, it is getting a bit ridiculous. Any help would be appreciated.

Jay

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:13 pm
by Taylorm
I can get to about any site at work except Ebay.......jerks............ :evil: ..i have no idea how to beat the system................

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:36 pm
by RichieRich
You can probably use a web-based proxy. Just do a google search. Of course, you may come up with a bunch of hack3r garbage. :?

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:59 pm
by JK Racing
websense sucks...let me ask some tech heads at work, they "fixed" my laptop and I can hit anything now :twisted:

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:12 am
by Halgar
Just be careful with whatever you do, most tech departments don't look kindly on hacking their security protocols. If your job will be jeopardized, proceed with caution.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:49 am
by bscotti
you may find that the proxy sites are blocked also. That used to be the case here.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:41 am
by Dr. Robotnik
Halgar wrote:Just be careful with whatever you do, most tech departments don't look kindly on hacking their security protocols. If your job will be jeopardized, proceed with caution.
Quoted for truth!!!!! 8)

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:12 am
by Erich Reichert
Ya no kidding! Pepsi has INSANE security here and they physically log in and monitor your computer at will. They can see it just like your monitor is on their desk so i'd be real careful no matter what you do at work... NOTHING on the internet is worth your job.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:20 am
by mikedealer
i have set this up for people with good success
http://www.http-tunnel.com/html/solutions/http_tunnel/client.asp

another alternative i use is i use my laptop with my blackberry as a modem, doesnt use ANY portion of there network whatsoever..

of course if i was stuck at work without internet, i would just get
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/DisplayPhones?phoneSKU=SW595URDRA

i have a detailed whitesheet article on how to ensure that they are not monitoring you using spectorsoft products or any of the other numerous spying tools, including some easy to use traffic analyzers that you can run.

if you dont have permission to install programs, i can show you how to reset local admin password very easily so you get root access to the box.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:25 pm
by Tadracket
mikedealer wrote:....i have a detailed whitesheet article on how to ensure that they are not monitoring you using spectorsoft products or any of the other numerous spying tools, including some easy to use traffic analyzers that you can run.

if you dont have permission to install programs, i can show you how to reset local admin password very easily so you get root access to the box.

Jay, do you know if they are using Novell or Server 2003 or is the network Linux based? Or are all the pc's just connected to switches that run through a connection server.

If you are still working where I think you are, I would bet money they have an impressive system. I ask because some of the things Mike is referring to won't work on certain networks.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:00 pm
by Tadracket
Jay, depending on your policies, there are a couple things you can do. Both are touched on already but here are the pit falls.

Web based proxies like covermyass.com can be an easy work around. But like bscotti said, most are already blocked. Plus, Websense is going to see that site and if I am an admin, I think that site name would draw some attention.

The second is tunneling to your home pc. One problem there will be the port you use. 443 is common but if your admin is worth his weight, he will detect the ssh hits and note the protocol is incorrect for that port.

Port 80 would be a better idea since that is the port for world wide web. Still, depending on what package of Websense they are using, the installation of programs like putty can be detected and reported to IT.

Like I said, depending on your policies, these work-arounds could get you any where from 'happier than a pig in slop' to your nearest unemployment line. I would not take a chance. As a matter of fact, I am going to be more careful about what I do at work. These programs are no joke.

I actually sent a link of Websense to my director. I am highly impressed with it's capabilities and will suggest it as an alternative to what we use now.

There is one more option and this is what I did. Talk to IT and ask them to add this site to the "allow" list. They may just do it. I'd bring them some home baked cookies or something. But other than that, Websense has the capabilities of detecting everything else. And it stores EVERYTHING and breaks it down to user and puts it all in charts and graphs AND emails it to whoever wherever whenever they want the information. I would not toy with it if it could cause me problems with my employer.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:13 pm
by mikedealer
i suggest setting up remote desktop at home (assuming you have windows XP pro), and opening port 3389 up on your home router, if for some reason they block 3389, you can change it on your windows machine (and then your firewall)

changing listening port instructions are here.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187623


you can also install PcAnywhere/VNC/etc etc to connect into your home machine to browse the internet, assuming they dont have the network totally locked down portwise, you should be able to find a open port and change the listening ports in any of these programs to work.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:22 pm
by Tadracket
mikedealer wrote:i suggest setting up remote desktop at home (assuming you have windows XP pro), and opening port 3389 up on your home router, if for some reason they block 3389, you can change it on your windows machine (and then your firewall)

changing listening port instructions are here.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187623


you can also install PcAnywhere/VNC/etc etc to connect into your home machine to browse the internet, assuming they dont have the network totally locked down portwise, you should be able to find a open port and change the listening ports in any of these programs to work.
The only problem with that is every open port is being monitored by Websense. If it is a bizaar port, they are going to investigate. The one good thing about this site, there should not be much traffic showing across the network. If you stream videos, that would show up. But you might get away with Mikes idea if you use a common used port like 80.

Make sure your computer is password protected if you do the remote desktop option. And the computer at work has to be Pro if you use Microsofts remote desktop. But your home computer can be home edition. Just make sure you enable it to accept remote support.

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:29 pm
by mikedealer
i would probably stream it across 3389 or 1723 if possible, those are the default termserv and vpn ports, they shouldnt notice anything since im sure they have terminal sessions going on all the time.

i believe your home computer will HAVE to have a password since you wont be able to connect in if it doesnt. and i could be wrong but im pretty positive your home computer has to be XP pro in order to enable that, and your work computer can be any version of windows as long as you download the RDP client from microsoft that runs on any OS

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:46 pm
by Tadracket
mikedealer wrote:i would probably stream it across 3389 or 1723 if possible, those are the default termserv and vpn ports, they shouldnt notice anything since im sure they have terminal sessions going on all the time.

i believe your home computer will HAVE to have a password since you wont be able to connect in if it doesnt. and i could be wrong but im pretty positive your home computer has to be XP pro in order to enable that, and your work computer can be any version of windows as long as you download the RDP client from microsoft that runs on any OS
Cool, did not know there was an RDP client from Microsoft. You just solved one of my web site problems. 8)

If you check out this site, http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp there is a section about half way down the page under power user that explains desktop support. It is actually the first set. I would not go by this alone and would question it but I have a PC with Home Edition on it that I remote into frequently to..........uh.....manage files. :mrgreen:

And the password is not required. My brothers web server is my old gaming machine and it is not password protected. It sits in a corner and when he needs to work on it, he fires up remote desktop and enter the computer name. You do have to make sure it is enabled though before you can just remote into it.