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Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:49 am
by Mad Racer
I have had this book for around 8 yrs.

Mr Lone Star (Paul) seems to like this book since he asked if I had a copy.

I have read it over & over again and has every answer you could think of to do with brushed motors including stock motors & silver cans.

Is it a rare book??

Cheers

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Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:20 am
by Lowgear
Well I do know theres someone on Amazon who has one up for sale for $250. Its been there a looooong time. :lol:

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Jims-Motor-Black-Book/dp/1553690869/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339319979&sr=8-1

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:48 am
by Ivan Dobsky
Wasn't this available as a download for a while?
I've actually never seen one in real life before, but I heard it was a really useful book when it was first released.

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:00 am
by Jedi Master
I'd love a scan/photocopy of that book. Rare as rocking horse s**t and very expensive when they do come up. :wink:

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:44 am
by Charlie don't surf
My dad has a copy, it was downloadable but there was a bunch left out if I recall

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:23 am
by Ivan Dobsky
I would guess that if you've raced nationals for a couple of years then most of the book's contents is stuff you'd have already picked up from experience, probably without even knowing it. At first I couldn't believe how much knowledge of motors I picked up in my first year of national racing.

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:24 pm
by lpddpd
There's one available through Alibris and Abebooks.com out of Texas for $371.76 right now. Makes $250 look affordable. I've used Alibris to find certain obscure and hard to find items in the past.

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:00 pm
by Ivan Dobsky
I have to ask, Why are these books so valuable? It seems like a great book and everything but isn't it for brushed motors? I figure that would make it almost worthless by now. Or am I wrong and it actually covers both types of motor that we use. Still, I wish I'd bought one originally now.

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:05 am
by Lonestar
Yes this was available as a download for a while but I simply missed that boat bitd :? I'd love to see a copy of this book for its historical significance and simply because BJ Greenmeyer is a hobby legend and character; but as said above not only is most of the stuff common knowledge for serious racers, but also brushed motor tuning is a thing of the past that people don't necessarily are ready to pay to get an edge on any more... There's a reason why those where requested price are $250 and $371 just don't sell :lol: ( mean, cmon, triple digit figures for this... it's ludicrous)

Paul

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:07 am
by Lonestar
Ivan Dobsky wrote:I have to ask, Why are these books so valuable?

Keep in mind that just because someone is asking a lot to sell theirs doesn't mean it's that valuable... what matters is sales price, not asking price ;)

Paul

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:12 am
by Lonestar
And after 2mn of google, here we go

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=126994

seems like most of it is available... I still wish I'd see the original layout though :) Maybe even a pic of BJ's legendary souped-up Vette :mrgreen:

and more, this looks like the real deal
http://drift916.5gigawattlizard.info/media/articles/Black%20Book.pdf

Bye bye, $250! :mrgreen:


Paul

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:41 am
by Bormac
and more, this looks like the real deal
http://drift916.5gigawattlizard.info/me ... 20Book.pdf
And BAM. Saved to fav's! Thanks Paul :mrgreen:

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:58 am
by Charlie don't surf
This still seems like a later version if I'm not mistaken? Isn't Hank the guy that started Hobbytalk?

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:24 am
by Lonestar
Charlie don't surf wrote:This still seems like a later version if I'm not mistaken? Isn't Hank the guy that started Hobbytalk?
Yes, Hank was the about.com guy (still have some Team RCV stickies btw, even a t-shirt transfer!) and hobbytalk host. I think BJ had his own forum on HT, both were working close iirc.

Very nice fellow, always helpful and friendly. No idea if he's still around... (Hank I mean, not BJ :? )

Paul

Re: Big Jim's Black Book ????

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:07 am
by Charlie don't surf
I think he is, my dad seems to know him from being very active on Hobbytalk-