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rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:54 pm
by slim_chance
Ok so I have both a xl1 stampede and rustler. Both running a 19t pinion and the same spur gear. The rustler is running a 20t traxxas stinger and a novak explorer 2 and a matched cell battery. The pede is running an old stock no name black can motor I bought back in the 90's and a dynamite blast with reverse esc and just off the shelf stick packs. I think the black can is a 20t too I just don't remember. I know they where made for a more equalized class in racing back in the day.
But the big surprize is the pede seems to be a lot faster. I experemented and put the matched cell pack in it and its even faster.
I have to fix a bad connector to the esc on the rusty but there will be a drag race test soon.
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:52 pm
by civilguy
Aren't Stampede tires larger diameter? That would give you higher top speed with similar setups.
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:58 pm
by slim_chance
Yeah they are bigger but it seems to be all around fasted to inclued off the line acceleration. Maybe the black can is just a better motor.
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:11 pm
by slim_chance
Ok ran them both in a straight up street drag race. Was interesting because I had a controllr in each hand so it took a few tries. The pede beats the rustler through the whole powerband. Wish I had a second black can sitting around. Going to be interesting to see what happens when I convert both to brushless and lipo.
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:12 am
by kaiser
is it a tamyia black can sport tuned motor? those things are suprisingly quick and last quite a long time.
great torquey little motor.
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:51 am
by slim_chance
No it is not a tamiya sport tuned but I do have one. The can is just black no decals or anything. If I remeber they where used for a spec class at the LHS that I always hung out at back in South Carolina
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:14 pm
by delsami
swap the motorsand have another race!!
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:26 am
by slim_chance
delsami wrote:swap the motorsand have another race!!
been working on that but my rx for the stampede died and I have no idea why.
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:09 pm
by slim_chance
I put the black can motor into the rustler and yeah that was the key to the speed. I wish I could remeber how many turns it is. Maybe a 19t. They where used as a handout motor for some race classes back then. Maybe I will just call my old LHS and ask.
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:12 pm
by chophead69
Going bushless and lipos is awsome but costs.not only with setup and batterys but broken parts.i have a box full of them and i did replace mostly everything with rpm and some aluminum. And still broke parts...well my son did. My rusty likes to do cart wheels lol
Re: rustler vs stamped not what you wuld figure
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:08 pm
by andymac0035
If this black can motor is the rebuildable kind, it could very well be a trinity "onyx" series (mod) motor minus it's label. At one time trinity coded thier motors by color. The onyx series was painted black. It was a 14t double wound motor....and quite fast.
I had a pair of those in a clod buster once. On 3S lipo I clocked it going 28 mph....that's flying for a clod (30:1 gearing).