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B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:33 pm
by flipwils11
JK Racing and I pm'd about this but I want to be sure I understand. I have this RC10B3 I got on craigslist (the sport B3 setup) and I converted it to bearings. I ordered the standard bearing setup which was for the team car but didn't realize I needed different size bearings for the rear if you don't have CDV's. It still has the stock wheels and tires on it.
So I want to make sure I have this right. If I keep the stock rear axles these are 1/4" and other wheel options would include the Thunder Tiger Phoenix BX wheels, right? If I do the CDV changeover, then this will give it 3/16" rear axles and then what wheel options do I have? Will I have the same axle size for the B4, B44, and other modern buggies increasing my wheel choices?
The front wheels I'm assuming are standard modern 2.2" configuration (whatever that is?) so other modern wheels like for the B4 will fit, right?
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:58 pm
by Charlie don't surf
Even if and when you convert to 3/16 you still have the B3/B2 rear wheel as your only option, the B4 does use a 3/16 but a different offset than the car you have, so by running the B4 wheels you would be binding from the wheel hitting the rear hub and the lower suspension mount. The front is also a deeper offset, and you will likely have clearance with the B4 wheels-it will narrow the car up a bunch-
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:58 pm
by flipwils11
So if I switch to the cdv's, ignoring B4 wheels, should I just check the wheel offsets in the stats and does it say "fits 3/16" axles" or something so I can figure out what will fit?
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:12 pm
by jwscab
if you stick with the 1/4" axles, you can use the JC racing wheels on Ebay for 2.2" wheels.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Associated-RC10-wheel-set-/180575149748?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item2a0b1e1eb4
they come in three colors.
if you convert to the CVD, and use the 3/16" axle, then you would need non-sport B2/B3 wheels. Thunder tiger has equivalent ones, but I don't know the exact part numbers.
duratrax wheels, as described in the 'how to put 2.2" wheels on your rc10' thread. come in a bunch of colors.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEWP3&P=SM
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXT5&P=SM
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:25 pm
by flipwils11
That helps, thanks!
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:23 pm
by muck
Charlie don't surf wrote:Even if and when you convert to 3/16 you still have the B3/B2 rear wheel as your only option, the B4 does use a 3/16 but a different offset than the car you have, so by running the B4 wheels you would be binding from the wheel hitting the rear hub and the lower suspension mount. The front is also a deeper offset, and you will likely have clearance with the B4 wheels-it will narrow the car up a bunch-
what if you change hubs and knuckles to t4/b4 stuff?
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:21 am
by jwscab
if you change your rear hub carriers to t4/b4, you are able to use B4 rear wheels as long as you use B44 rear CVD's. Doug (EauRouge) used these on his last build. The hub needs to be drilled or reamed out to 1/8" for the suspension pin.
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:37 am
by flipwils11
I just got these rear B3 hubs so I don't think I'll be going the B4 hub route.

Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:08 am
by flipwils11
Alright, I ordered up two sets of Duratrax wheels from Tower and went to convert the CDV's last night and....... they don't fit. The axle won't fit through the hole in the wheel. And I tried the old stub axle that came on my Sport B3 and it doesn't fit the Duratrax wheels either (hole is the right diameter but the taper of the axle that gets larger in diameter by the drive pin won't fit inside the Duratrax wheel hub, see picture above). Not sure if I'm explaining this right, but the point is they don't work.
Luckily I'll be doing an old is new gold tub project so these wheels won't go to waste but I'm lucky that I got a set of the white B3 rear wheels on ebay which fit the 3/16" axle on the MIP CDV.
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:29 am
by muck
can you use a counter sink drill bit to open it up a touch to fit?
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:11 am
by jwscab
the duratrax ones will only fit on the 3/16" axles. not the tapered 1/4" axles that were stock.
they might need a slight ream to get them to fit over the 3/16" axle.
if you are trying to run a 2.2" wheel on the tapered 1/4" axle you need:
-jc racing wheels from the UK(ebay)
-b3 'sport' wheels.
Unless you modify anything else, they won't be a drop in replacement.
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:18 pm
by flipwils11
jwscab wrote:the duratrax ones will only fit on the 3/16" axles. not the tapered 1/4" axles that were stock.
I'll take a picture to show but they didn't fit when I tried, surprised they would need to be drilled out.
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:32 pm
by jwscab
my next line mentioned that the need to be reamed. I think they are really 5mm.
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:09 pm
by klavy69
Yes,
The duratrax wheels are extremely tight and will fit if you force them. I just reamed them out and they slid on and off easily. I also have a set on a runner I sold awhile back that I forced on and they are still like that. Over time of taking them on and off they loosened up to slide on and off easily for the current owner.
Todd
Re: B3 wheel selection help (sport to team/CDV change)
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:35 pm
by flipwils11
jwscab wrote:my next line mentioned that the need to be reamed. I think they are really 5mm.
Good to know now! I was worried, but thanks. Confirmed this tonight. I got the slightest step up drill bit I could locate and reamed them a tiny bit, and they slid right on with no excess play. Went ahead and mounted up new JC Concepts tires and added glue, I'm ready!
thanks, sorry for the false alarm.