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6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:10 am
by muck
i am trying to help a friend out. He picked up 2 rc10s on his local CL last night. One appears to be the CF rc10. It has the graphite chassis with the AE etching and andys arms.
what i am stuck on is the tranny.
It looks like the big 6 gear housing but has 2 screws in the spur gear that i think is the stealth spur set up.
Is that possible?
the car on the left is the one i am questioning.
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Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:19 am
by Charlie don't surf
That purple one is the earliest of the Edingers :wink:

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:27 am
by muck
how can you tell?

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:30 am
by Eau Rouge
It's VERY light gold anodizing. Nice find.

And no, you can't bolt a spur gear to a 6-gear tranny. The differential is out the outside. The car will essentially be a solid axle and probably won't turn very well. Not sure why someone would do that intentionally.

The rear shocks on the graphite also belong on the gold tub and vise versa.

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:33 am
by muck
Eau Rouge wrote:It's VERY light gold anodizing. Nice find.

And no, you can't bolt a spur gear to a 6-gear tranny. The differential is out the outside. The car will essentially be a solid axle and probably won't turn very well. Not sure why someone would do that intentionally.
the other pic i had on it from the CL listing showed 2 screws in the spur. Could they have installed the stealth gearing in that case then?
I took the rc10 i had apart with the 6 gear tranny and i agree, i am not sure how it would work since they are split inside..

thanks

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:37 am
by Eau Rouge
muck wrote:the other pic i had on it from the CL listing showed 2 screws in the spur. Could they have installed the stealth gearing in that case then?
Nope. IMO, there is no way that gearbox comes close to functioning properly.

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:06 pm
by Russ Winn
Could it be one of those old diff pinning kits? I've never used one, so I don't know what it looks like installed.

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:41 pm
by Eau Rouge
The diff pinning kits only use set screws in the diff plates to lock the diff rings to the diff hubs, and nothing else. It would still have balls in it and be spinning free like a diff. It wouldn't look any different than a standard 6-gear diff other than the tiny 4-40 set screw in the outer diff hub.

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:00 pm
by muck
Eau Rouge wrote:The diff pinning kits only use set screws in the diff plates to lock the diff rings to the diff hubs, and nothing else. It would still have balls in it and be spinning free like a diff. It wouldn't look any different than a standard 6-gear diff other than the tiny 4-40 set screw in the outer diff hub.
well he said the tranny moves. Just not sure if it has diff action. He is out.
I wonder if some one just stuffed a b3 spur set up on it to lock it in.

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:31 pm
by scr8p
if i had to guess, someone drilled 2 holes in the inner hub and ran screws through the gear and into it. no matter what they did or how they did it, it's not right.

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:06 pm
by muck
scr8p wrote:if i had to guess, someone drilled 2 holes in the inner hub and ran screws through the gear and into it. no matter what they did or how they did it, it's not right.
guess i will see next week. These are headed my way.. WOOT WOOT

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:29 pm
by muck
ok, an update.
The screws are set into the inner pad. The spring is seated against the inner pad in the middle of the spur gear. It obviously is not right but did allow the tranny to have diff action.

On another note, these are now mine. My friend sent these to me as a xmas gift! I want to make one into a runner, just not sure which one.. more to come
thanks

Re: 6 gear tranny with stealth spur?

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:28 pm
by binjaloo
I saw an RC10 "The Winning Edge" Video where Jim Halsey is showing 2 screws in the spur gear. Not sure if that was for the 6 gear tranny.