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Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:30 am
by DerbyDan
Ok so i've dyed white parts black using the Rit powder with good results.... (apart from messing up my camping stove lol!)

Thing is, in my quest to find a set of the pink ribbed face Yokomo wheels i've ended up with a nice new set of white wheels (thanks Kenooze :) ) Which I am intending to dye bright pink. Can anyone recomend a product & process for this as it seems Rit do not do a bright pink in their range :|

Thanks in advance

Dan

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:35 am
by jwscab
litespeed used to sell dylon.....and I think dylon is the actual brand, and are still around in some fashion. give them a search and see what you can find.....

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:10 am
by Eau Rouge
Dylon from Litespeed was sold in fluorescent pink, fluorescent orange and fluorescent yellow (among other solid colors) and VERY difficult to find. I have a couple of containers of pink and yellow, but I guard them with a gun and pit bull. ;) I don't believe it was the same stuff sold in Europe today.


If you find any, a good tip is to SAVE the liquid after you use it in a glass juice bottle that you can re-seal and store. The only way you are going to find them is if you get lucky in a closeout bin at an old hobby shop, like I did. They rarely show up on eBay, so when they do, buy them if you want them.

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:12 am
by DerbyDan
jwscab wrote:litespeed used to sell dylon.....and I think dylon is the actual brand, and are still around in some fashion. give them a search and see what you can find.....
Thanks - yeah Dylon is a British brand, i've had a look on their site but their products seem to be for fabrics - Nylon is something it states cannot be dyed with their products.. I'm guessing the Yokomo wheels are some kind of nylon/engineering plastic?

I've had another look on the Rit site - it seems you can obtain different colours by mixing different colours & diluting them but nothing looks to be a bright as i'd like :? Having said that I do have a single pair of the front wheels that are a rather washed-out pink.... but other people's pink wheels seem brighter??

The wheels I do have....
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The wheels on Charlie don't surf's car (hope he doesn't mind me using the image?) The plastic around the applied wheel dots looks brighter?
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The wheels I want to replicate.... Masami's original car
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Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:18 am
by DerbyDan
Thanks Eau Rouge - will keep my eyes peeled on the bay for this magic stuff! :D

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:23 am
by Eau Rouge
FWIW, man years ago, I had been trying to find Litespeed dyes in fluorescent and had zero luck. I wanted a fluorescent orange, so I dug up an industrial dye supplier on the internet. They sent me small sample packets of raw bright lemon yellow and raw bright magenta. Not fluorescent in the least, but VERY bright colors—MUCH nicer than Rit dye.

Anyway, I experimented mixing the colors in water to get a nice orange that was VERY bright but not fluorescent, and wound up mixing more magenta in to get a beautiful bright red color that I used on a white Custom Works nylon. You could easily take that magenta and use a light dilution of it to make a very bright pink, and mix in a small amount of yellow to get a very similar bright pink/rose of the Yok wheels.

The dye company sent me two small sample packets of each for free, and they were plenty to use for dying r/c parts.

You can kind of see the resultant bright red still on the suspension arms of an old Enforcer gas conversion I had built...

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:32 am
by jwscab
DerbyDan, the wheels you have are the wheels Masami's car is wearing, though they might be a little faded. The yomoko wheel dots that are cut up are covering up most of the wheel anyway, so I think using them would be accurate for you. I don't think you would be able to replicate the right color though, with just a dye on white wheels. you would need the molded pink ones.

Reggie's wheels do look really bright....I'm wondering if they might have been dyed.

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:06 am
by jwscab
found another place.....maybe these guys can help you out:
http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/9236231-AA.shtml?lnav=dyes.html

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:09 am
by Eau Rouge
FWIW, the company that I dealt with sold simple, safe fabric dyes. Nylon should take most water-based dyes with no problem.



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Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:15 am
by jwscab
if you are referring to the fact that the dharma stuff is an ACID dye, they utilize vinegar or citric acid to facilitate. the instructions also seem to indicate that the acid isn't necessary is some cases....I would bet the dyes you have used had powdered citric acid or something similar in them.

they are designed for hobby as well as industrial use and look like they might work really well.....from what I have read, nylon dyes best with an acid type dye, but I don' know really....

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:58 pm
by DerbyDan
jwscab wrote:DerbyDan, the wheels you have are the wheels Masami's car is wearing, though they might be a little faded. The yomoko wheel dots that are cut up are covering up most of the wheel anyway, so I think using them would be accurate for you. I don't think you would be able to replicate the right color though, with just a dye on white wheels. you would need the molded pink ones.

Reggie's wheels do look really bright....I'm wondering if they might have been dyed.
Yes - looking more closely at the wheels on Masami's car (I believe that the photo I've posted is actually a fairly recent picture of it) between the wheel dots (I have some of these ready to go on :wink: ) they look similar in colour to those wheels that I have - unfortunately I only have the fronts... no rears :(

Doug - that oval racer looks ace - & those plastic parts are uber bright!!

Looking back on the Rit site - seems that there is a fuscia colour that might achieve what I need??

My other half would probably advise that I just stick it in when I do a whites clothes wash in the machine.... I nearly always miss a red sock or something and make everything a bit pink :lol:

Thanks for your input guys

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:59 pm
by lpddpd
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I don't know if the materials are the same or if you are looking for a stronger pink but, these are HPI Superstar wheels I dyed a long time ago with strawberry Kool Aid. I was hoping for a stronger red and got pink instead. The fronts I then detailed with a Testor's gloss marker, orange #2527 (still have that marker) which gave me the color I wanted. The backs and insides I left alone.

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:13 pm
by jwscab
wow...that looks really close to the yokomo pink!

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:29 am
by DerbyDan
Indeed those wheels do look a pretty good match for the Yokomo colour

lpddpd - where did you get the dye from & what was your method of dying them?

Re: Dyeing white Yokomo wheels pink - what to use?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:49 am
by lpddpd
Well the more I try to think about it, the less certain I am about whether it was strawberry or cherry Kool Aid but it was one of these:
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Just followed the directions for making the drink, didn't add sugar or ice, plopped the wheels in let them set overnight. Then detailed with the pen.