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RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:35 pm
by Snorman70
I know that the front bulkheads are the same, but will the GT rear bulkhead work for the RC10T?

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:43 pm
by jwscab
it's not the same, but I do believe it will physically bolt to the chassis where the bulkhead goes. since its for a gas car, it has no battery cup built in, and would need either the GT shock tower, or your own custom one.

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:22 pm
by Snorman70
Can you use the battery two cup method that I have seen people use for the Rc10T's? Will the rear suspension mount for the GT also fit the RC10T?

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:37 pm
by THUNDERSTRIKE1
yes and yes to your last question lol DON

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:53 pm
by Snorman70
Thanks for the information.

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:04 am
by JK Racing
I think the rear arm mounts will not have the correct anti squat or toe in to run on the electric trucks/buggies.

I have a set I should test, bolt them onto the electric mounts and put a hinge pin into each mount to see if the angles match.

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:40 pm
by SteveK
That's correct; not sure about the toe-in, but the GT rear arm mounts don't have any anti-squat molded in. You can use a washer under the mount at the front screw. The holes are very close, if not exact, but you'll need to enlarge the holes a little for an 8-32 screw.

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:53 pm
by Snorman70
SteveK wrote:That's correct; not sure about the toe-in, but the GT rear arm mounts don't have any anti-squat molded in. You can use a washer under the mount at the front screw. The holes are very close, if not exact, but you'll need to enlarge the holes a little for an 8-32 screw.

What are you meanwhen you say anti squat? Are talking the concave area of the originals?

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:18 pm
by SteveK
Anti-squat is what keeps the rear of the car from squatting down under acceleration. If you look at the truck from the side, the rear suspension arms are about tilted up about 3 degrees (like the front is kicked up at 30 degrees). This angle makes it a little harder to compress the suspension when pushing straight down, like the weight transfer from the motor. It can also affect the handling of the truck over bumps and in corners, but weight transfer to the rear is the biggest reason for it.

The RC10GT has very different weight distribution than the RC10T. On the GT, everything except the receiver battery is ahead of the rear wheels, while the 10T has the motor (15% of the truck's total weight) behind the rear axles. Because of this, the GT worked better without any anti-squat built in.

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:20 pm
by SteveK
These were the best pictures I could find, everything else was for 4-link suspensions (drag racers play with this a lot, to help get better traction off the line).

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http://www.rc411.com/pages/howto.php?howto=62&page=1

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:27 pm
by Snorman70
These are stated to be 3 degree mounts. Do you think they will work?

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:14 pm
by JK Racing
is that 3 degrees of toe in or of antisquat?

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:26 pm
by SteveK
Definitely the anti-squat, and possibly the toe-in as well. I believe the rear arm mounts came with 0, 1-1/2, and 3 degrees of toe-in, but anti-squat was the same on all of them.

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:45 pm
by Snorman70
SteveK wrote:Definitely the anti-squat, and possibly the toe-in as well. I believe the rear arm mounts came with 0, 1-1/2, and 3 degrees of toe-in, but anti-squat was the same on all of them.

Thanks for the information. I will have to buy them to find out. lol It's only money, what the hell.

Re: RC10T Bulkhead

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:09 am
by SteveK
Those are GT mounts, correct? If so then they won't have anti-squat. Somebody makes some gold aluminum mounts for the electric cars, I'm sure somebody on here has the link.

You should be able to tell if the mount has anti-squat from looking at it. The 'barrel' the pin slides through will slant downward towards the rear, so it will actually be above the the flat part of the mount in front and hang below the chassis in the rear.