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Luke's Procat rebuild

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:34 am
by kaszal
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m134/kaszal/RCMC%20mods/?albumview=slideshow

Hope it runs OK. Video coming soon.

Modifications
front gearbox screws replaced with 4 bolts
front belt adjuster removed and spacers inserted behind gearbox brackets
screws for rear wishbone brackets replaced with single bolt
undertray and belt cover sealed with draught-excluder tape
gearbox side plates have been satin chrome plated
diff washers sanded with 600 wet and dry
new disc springs used in )()()( arrangement (tip from Bormac)
thrust bearing sealed with foam gasket
aerial mounted mid-chassis

Special parts
Fibre-Lyte carbon-fibre chassis and custom battery tray (idea from Jeroen)
Bosscat slipper clutch and rear pro-diff
3mm ceramic diff balls
aluminium eccentric bearing housings
aluminium rear transmission housing
MMS machined nylon front diff
MMS nylon Z bracket
Core RC titanium screws
Lunsford titanium turnbuckles and ball studs
Bosscat rear hub carriers, wishbones and 1/8 hingepins
Bosscat H-bracket (sanded to fit)
rear anti-roll bar
crash-back o-rings 0.862 × 0.103”
TRF 501X aeration dampers
JC Racing Products wheels and Traxxas Anaconda tyres
Blue Bird high speed servo
Novak GTB and Velociti 5.5 motor
6.6v 4000mAh Li-Fe 35C battery
Parma Cat bodyshell painted with Fastrax sapphire colour-change paint

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:17 am
by Mr. ED
superb pictures!

Where will you be running this one? (I assume you didn't convert to LiFe and modern electronics for a shelfer)

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:33 am
by kaszal
Thanks. I haven't figured out where I can race it yet. I'm afraid to break it. Are there any vintage races in UK?

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:44 am
by Bormac
You'll have a very hard time breaking a Procat. Sure you'll crack a few wings, bodies and wheels but for the most part these cars are very hard to break if you can at the very least drive them. Dont over power the car, keep it at a level at which you can maintain control and work up from their. This will save you a lot of greif.
If I might suggest you keep an eye on the tension and tracking of the front belt. If it comes too loose it will slip and be trouble from their on in.
Great to see another classic Schuey up and going. :D :D :D

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:46 am
by Bormac
Oh I just read that you are sporting a 5.5t motor. Um.....good luck with that one. :mrgreen:

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:22 am
by Mr. ED
you may find a couple places which run vintage on oople's site

Most places that do vintage races though probably run the class with a milder moter spec.

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:55 am
by Bormac
I first begun back in off road a few years back with a GTB and 5.5t. The GTB esc's are like an off and on switch with very little 'real' tunability to get the 5.5t to behave itself.
Ive since sold all my low turns and gone with 10.5t motors. My 5000 lipo's deliver good consistant voltage so they do well enough.

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:49 pm
by kaszal
Thanks. I don't think I'll get problems with the front belt. I've modified the front gearbox housing so it's clamped with 4 bolts instead of 8 screws. The tension setting shouldn't change because I've used spacers to push the gearbox forward instead of the old plastic tension bar. The 5.5 should also be OK because the Li-Fe cells only supply 6.6v - it's easier to handle and won't shred the drive train. I've built this car the best I could and I hope I can find somewhere (safe) to race it!

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:05 pm
by kaszal
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Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:44 am
by kaszal
I fitted fitted Bosscat hub carriers and changed the one way driveshafts to normal ones. It makes the front end 21g lighter. I drove it around a bit and it goes great. Can't wait to race it on Sunday - first time in 17 years!

I've been doing some weighing and this Cat is LEAN...
Ni-MH to Li-Fe battery - 140g reduction
Schumacher Aerodiscs to JC spokes - 13g reduction
Titanium screws, turnbuckles and studs - 26g reduction
Carbon fibre chassis - who knows?
The total racing weight of the car is (drum roll) 1550g
Isn't that 38g below the BRCA minimum?

All I need now are some nip driveshafts. Can anyone help?

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:20 pm
by kaszal
Arghhhhhhh! Cracked the front bumper today! Nevermind, it's been properly "christened" and is a true runner. Made the B final (OK there were only two 4WD finals) and came exactly in the middle. Hope to get some videos up after next meeting. So now looking for driveshafts (new) and a front bumper (any condition). btw I changed to Bosscat front hub carriers so have a couple spare T052 hub carriers.

Video at last!

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:39 am
by kaszal
Here's short video clip of my Procat at Stotfold last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db9Tqg45ccE

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:30 pm
by kaszal
Done a few modifications after racing the Procat a few times.

Full details on Oople (sorry RC10talk!) but here's some photos.

http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m134/kaszal/new%20modifications/?albumview=slideshow

Re: Procat rebuilt for Li-Fe batteries

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:00 am
by Mr. ED
The code used on oople is the same a s here so you can just copy and paste here

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:28 am
by kaszal
Thanks.

moved out front shocks (had to remove roll bar)
Bosscat front hub carriers
standard driveshafts up front (no one-ways)
BRP orange drive belt plus extra spacers
longer rear suspension link
turned off drag brakes on ESC
Wasp ballraced steering and 3mm carbon fibre link

dirt shields from I&Q Tuning (less rebuilding shocks!)
Losi springs and cups
front oil 40w, piston 3, silver springs
rear oil 30w, piston 4, yellow springs

new HPI wing
sealed belt cover and undertray better
applied sponge tape to cushion undertray and shell
moved tray up by 2mm to hold battery more securely
strapped down capacitor properly