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Ultima rebuild. Updated 12/30/09
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:25 pm
by RedScampi
I picked this up locally from a craigslist ad. A real nice guy named Jeff. Interestingly, Jeff also has a whole bunch of vintage Tamiya stuff listed here, including a Super Champ and a mint Subaru Brat. Looks like a great package deal!
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tag/1457387927.html
I know this is an Ultima, and it has a Litesink heat sink, Andy's front arms, a Hot Trick rear tower, Houge steering, bearings all around, incorrect battery cup and antenna mast and what looks like a Turbo Ultima body on its last legs. But, I don't know what to call it other than "Ultima". Jeff didn't know either but he said it was a really good racer. Looks like it's been through one or two!
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:47 pm
by RichieRich
Yeah, this could be any version of Ultima. I'm going to guess it's a Turbo Ultima 2.
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Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:09 pm
by Mr. ED
it's a mix-a-lot: andy's front arms , hot trick rear shocktower, no idea on the front tower, litespeed moterplate, 48 pitch external gear (robinson racing products?)
mistery steering (houge?) en gen 2 body
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:18 pm
by RedScampi
Steering is definitely Houge...I think.
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Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:31 pm
by Diggley
It looks like an Ultima Pro with a Duratrax graphite chassis to me, if those yellow wheels & gold shocks are original. I noticed it's not double slotted for the servo mount adjustment, other than that, the chassis looks the same as mine. The Pro XL had a solid chassis too, but was a bunch longer...Maybe it's a Trinity?
I know the Pro version had slots for the batteries, but I thought I had seen one with the solid carbon chassis like yours at one time. The European/Asian version had the flat alloy chassis version with cut outs...I have no idea why.
It could be an Ultima 2, with a chassis swap (for the better). They had those crappy double decker "Kelron"...(flexible plastic) chassis' and were never offered with the carbon fiber option..
It's definitely has a bunch of aftermarket stuff on it, have fun with it. Ultima's are great cars.
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:39 pm
by Jay Dub
The rear suspension mounts and bulkhead don't have the extra mounting holes for later ultima suspension systems, so I bet it is an original Ultima W/ a bunch of aftermarket parts. A pic of the front of the car w/o the body will give you an idea of which bulkhead (revision) it has. -Jeff
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:02 pm
by Diggley
Jay Dub wrote:The rear suspension mounts and bulkhead don't have the extra mounting holes for later ultima suspension systems, so I bet it is an original Ultima W/ a bunch of aftermarket parts. A pic of the front of the car w/o the body will give you an idea of which bulkhead (revision) it has. -Jeff
That rules out the Pro XL possibility.
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:24 pm
by RichieRich
Right, clearly not an Ultima Pro XL. It's a version behind that. Since it has the gold shocks, I'm guessing it was part of the 2nd round of Ultimas after the original and the Turbo. Talk about a frankentima.
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:15 am
by Jay Dub
I think you are right. Upon further review, you can see the reinforcing on the front bulkhead that the early ultima bulkheads did not. However, it could be a later replacement as the ultima bulkheads are prone to breaking
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. -Jeff
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:58 am
by Mr. ED
if it's a short wheelbase chassis it could be from JG too
It has the pro's turnbuckles but not the larger screws through the top of the gearcase: for the included rear bumper. Rather impossible to say what it started off as... maybe sideways
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Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:26 am
by RedScampi
Wow, this is a real frankenstein, more than I thought. No wonder I couldn't id it. Here a a couple more shots. The wheelbase apears to be about 10.5".
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:20 am
by adam lancia
That looks like a great "as is" racer project! Hack a little from the rear bulkhead away so the battery fits in between the inner hinge pins, move a battery cup up front right behind the servo, clean it up a little and go racing
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Have you opened up the transmission yet? might be some goodies in there considering it's already got 48p gears on the outside
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Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:20 am
by m_vice
that Trinity chassis is very nice.
looks to me like you can make a very cool car with that.
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Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:43 am
by RedScampi
adam lancia wrote:Have you opened up the transmission yet? might be some goodies in there considering it's already got 48p gears on the outside
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To answer you question, I hadn't opened it yet, but you inspired me! I confess, I know nothing about what I see in here. I have several Kyoshos but I haven't cracked any of the transmissions until now. Is it standard Kyosho or other?
Re: What Ultima is this?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:44 am
by RedScampi
m_vice wrote:that Trinity chassis is very nice.
looks to me like you can make a very cool car with that.
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You think that's what this is? Thanks!