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Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:22 pm
by Mr. ED
That doesn't have anything to see with the slipper-clutch nor spur.
Glad you posted this pic so I can follow again.

I've never seen a topshaft like this before on an ultima: mine don't have any provision for the E-clips I see on the left side in your pic. But they all have it at the right side.

Drilling the steel axle would be out of my league, but should be do-able with the right tools.

Before you go there: did you check the shafts of the other ultima's you obtained?

Good luck

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:25 pm
by mikedealer
cobalt drill bit will eat through the steel like a warm knife through butter.

all the other ultimas i have, have the normal 2 pin shaft.

if you use the "final pinion" with this, it works perfectly in a ultima, but no eclip mount

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:26 am
by RichieRich
This slipper is the standard part for the Turbo Optima and Salute. It never came on the Ultima. But, the transmissions are pretty similar so you can swap the slipper into the Ultima.

Drilling and tapping a hole on the outer shaft sounds like a good idea. Let us know how it goes.

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:28 am
by Mr. ED
I'll make some pics of a shaft or 2 tonight (if I got some not mounted at least).

What do you mean by 'final pinion' ?

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:05 am
by Snake Plissken
I took a pic of the scrap lexan that I placed to hold the bearing, it doesn't look 'trick' but it works...
Sorry for the out-of-focus blurred pic, I was in a hurry when I took it :(

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:08 am
by Mr. ED
So this slipper is not the same thing as the option house part I'm thinking of then?
The one I'm thinking of is a slipper clutch built into the motorpinion.
This is also the part for which you need that brownish lexan gearcover.

If I understood well the slipper you guys are talking of sits ont he outside of the housing on the topshaft: rgiht after the spur?
Sorry for the many questions; this is total new for me and very interesting

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:23 am
by Snake Plissken
Mr. ED wrote: If I understood well the slipper you guys are talking of sits ont he outside of the housing on the topshaft: rgiht after the spur?
Sorry for the many questions; this is total new for me and very interesting
Thats correct, as Rich mentioned it was included with the Turbo Optima and Salute (you can check the manual to see how its assembled) but since the Ultima gearbox derived from the Optima it also fits it.
I've been running my Ultima with this setup for over a year and it really help protecting the gears. It doesn't do a very good job for traction control though, the adjustment is too sensitive.

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:46 am
by Mr. ED
mikedealer wrote:cobalt drill bit will eat through the steel like a warm knife through butter.
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I don't spend much on my drills; without cooling/lubricant they go blunt very fast anyway
Also don't have a benchpress or a good drill machine: just a dremel.

So here's how I would solve the problem you have:
The bearing at the motor side is now pushed in from the outside and stopped from falling into the housing by a small ridge.
Ream that ridge out and plug a flanged bearing from the inside. Then put shrink tube over the shaft to keep the falnged bearing from sliding into the housing.

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:37 pm
by RichieRich
Mr. ED wrote: So here's how I would solve the problem you have:
The bearing at the motor side is now pushed in from the outside and stopped from falling into the housing by a small ridge.
Ream that ridge out and plug a flanged bearing from the inside. Then put shrink tube over the shaft to keep the falnged bearing from sliding into the housing.
That's a clever idea. Sounds like it should work.

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:23 pm
by mikedealer
good news, battery arrived today. fits inside perfectly with the low profile servo. doesnt even ride up on the bulkhead. mounted a couple peices of foam with shoe goo to secure it.

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:43 pm
by mikedealer
mounted up the electronics tonight, shoe-gooed the servo down, made a custom graphite wire hold down with aluminum spacers screwed into the bulkhead, got to solder the motor still, but its lookin good

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:02 pm
by mikedealer
took off those black shocks, didnt like the feel when i took for test ride. polished some beat up gold shocks, feel way better. used a couple of unknown alloy shock collars i polished

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:54 am
by Mr. ED
Have you tried putting an assodriver in the cage?

Maybe that, and a flat piece to close the top off are all you need ;)

I'm playing with the idea for a hotshot-ultima now :)

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:21 pm
by Mr. ED
mikedealer wrote:... shoe-gooed the servo down...
Pitty the servo has to get an ear clipped to fit sideways huh. I've never used shoe-goo so don't know how strong it really is.
Instead I've put some extra double sided tape and sandwhished a little brace under the top-deck
Image

Re: Ultima Buildup

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:30 pm
by mikedealer
on a yok mx4, you used to have to cut both servo ears to mount the servo, all you needed to hold it in place FOREVER was shoe goo.. it does come off pretty easily with a flat screw driver when your done.

only downside is it takes overnight to dry