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Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:46 am
by badhoopty
mark wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:30 pmEveryone stock up and re-sell for millions on ebay 30 years from now, I'll be in a nursing home by then.
I doubt the resale will be like it is/was with actual original vintage stuff. not sayin they wont be worth anything but there's a lot of people buyin these reres to keep nib thinkin its some kind of investment, which means there's gonna be a lot of nib kits and queens still around years down the road.
Definitely interested to see what this 4x thing is all about. I'm honestly surprised to see it being a strictly a.e. thing. I would also have assumed it would be an a.e./mip combo, especially after hearing mip was in the works on a rere kit.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:20 pm
by RCveteran
badhoopty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:46 am
mark wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:30 pmEveryone stock up and re-sell for millions on ebay 30 years from now, I'll be in a nursing home by then.
I doubt the resale will be like it is/was with actual original vintage stuff. not sayin they wont be worth anything but there's a lot of people buyin these reres to keep nib thinkin its some kind of investment, which means there's gonna be a lot of nib kits and queens still around years down the road.
I agree. Most of us are not that young, buying a kit today for $400 in hopes 20 years now you can sell it for what $600? Collect them NIB at this point because you like that, as an investment not worth the time. 20 years from now that extra $200 you made might buy an egg. Easier and better ways to make a couple hundred over a lot of years before that nursing home takes it all.

Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:46 pm
by coxbros1
RCveteran wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:20 pm
badhoopty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:46 am
mark wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:30 pmEveryone stock up and re-sell for millions on ebay 30 years from now, I'll be in a nursing home by then.
I doubt the resale will be like it is/was with actual original vintage stuff. not sayin they wont be worth anything but there's a lot of people buyin these reres to keep nib thinkin its some kind of investment, which means there's gonna be a lot of nib kits and queens still around years down the road.
I agree. Most of us are not that young, buying a kit today for $400 in hopes 20 years now you can sell it for what $600? Collect them NIB at this point because you like that, as an investment not worth the time. 20 years from now that extra $200 you made might buy an egg. Easier and better ways to make a couple hundred over a lot of years before that nursing home takes it all.
With the proper vices you might avoid those, or get there early, it's a crap shoot..going with the vice theory.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:51 pm
by RCveteran
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:11 pm
by GoMachV
Oh hey look, it's a Ten4.
I wish Curtis would have reached out. I would have been happy to help. Guess they didn't need my help with China in the mix.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:16 pm
by RC10superfan
This new AE 4wd RC10 seems to be the MIP car. Is AE in partnership with MIP on this car? Will there be a different RC10 4wd car released by MIP?
I absolutely love the vintage focus, re-releases, and vintage support!
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:20 pm
by GoMachV
From my sources, MIP was not involved and was planning on having theirs ready for the race in Indiana. This is just a copy of our Ten4, I expect the MIP will be more... original.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:24 pm
by GreenBar0n
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:38 pm
by Frankentruck
GoMachV wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:11 pm
Oh hey look, it's a Ten4
I wish Curtis would have reached out. I would have been happy to help.
But you're so hard to get ahold of.

Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:55 pm
by RCveteran
So here's the big question, are those ball studs metric? Or did they make standard modern ball studs and cup? If not a mix of both metric and standard on the car? We should now have an easy factory 12mm hex conversion option with the hubs and such as well for a 2wd car.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:56 pm
by harvey
@GOMACHV, maybe you would like to show them up and create a JC410 conversion! They've done some of the heavy lifting in regards to the injection molding, and those parts hopefully will be available separately. I have really enjoyed the gear diff trans from JC in my RC10 using your design, and an RPM style front end with a gear diff and a one-way would be a sight to behold. I'll second the idea of a flatter front kick-up as mentioned earlier in this thread, perhaps utilizing a hinged bulkhead like the earlier Losi for adjustment and/or belt tension. It would represent the evolution of aftermarket products, which has always aimed to improve on the original designs of the manufacturers.
Regardless, it's a pretty interesting time to live through in the vintage world right now, and the upcoming Associated vintage race in Vegas will doubtless give an interesting benchmark for the performance of the various vintage offerings.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:19 pm
by GoMachV
Yeah I'm gonna let them figure that out, hahaha. I'm done spending money just to have them clone it. I already have something else cooking.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:49 pm
by RCveteran
GoMachV wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:19 pm
Yeah I'm gonna let them figure that out, hahaha. I'm done spending money just to have them clone it. I already have something else cooking.
Looking at the salary they are willing to pay in their job postings for an experienced engineer expected to live in the Los Angeles area, you're better off.

Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:06 pm
by RC10superfan
GoMachV wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:19 pm
Yeah I'm gonna let them figure that out, hahaha. I'm done spending money just to have them clone it. I already have something else cooking.
I like the machined parts of the Factory Works car better.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:10 pm
by GoMachV
I do too, hey they are probably compatible

I'll wait and see, maybe we will have some hop ups available for the AE version.
