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Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:30 pm
by isobarik
Jay Dub wrote:I did allot of RD on the schumacher mission series of cars. And there was a reason we went away from the long belt connecting the two differentials of the car. If you are going to change it, why not run a short belt to the rear, and a long belt to the front from the layshaft only. I am not positive, but I should think the Lazer series of component from Kyosho would be a good place to start. There are plenty of spares about, and I would bet there are enough readily available parts already manufactured for some other car. my .02c -Jeff
The small pulleys LA-11 are very hard to get havent seen them on the bay for ages and they only exist on the la series of cars ( not lazer sport ) .
I think the easiest thing to do is get pulleyshafts from beltcorp or sdp and machine them down to have bearings fit since they are avaliable in different sizes and just have the right belts to match the pitch on the pulleys. M3 belts for the lazers and 870 works93/95 yokomos, M2 for works91 yokomo diffs.
I guess that you want to use the oneways at the wheels then the layshaft pulley issue should be an easy task and just get the slipper of youre choise.
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:41 pm
by isobarik
Any one with an radiant that would like to share the info of the distance between the two chassi sides of the radiant ??? in metrical please.
mvh Isobarik
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 3:28 pm
by Mr. ED
The kyosho triumph pulley may be something worth looking at: it is similar to the lazer pulley but wide enough to take the 2 belts side by side.
(It was Bormacs picture of his home-made widened lazerdiff that gave me this idea)
For the front why not use a one-way instead of diff: easier to get right in my mind.
Oh, by the way: the hirobo diffs and belts look like they may work too but the y are extreme wide
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:28 pm
by murphy3428
isobarik wrote:Any one with an radiant that would like to share the info of the distance between the two chassi sides of the radiant ??? in metrical please.
mvh Isobarik
36.0mm between sides
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:11 pm
by isobarik
Mr. ED wrote:The kyosho triumph pulley may be something worth looking at: it is similar to the lazer pulley but wide enough to take the 2 belts side by side.
(It was Bormacs picture of his home-made widened lazerdiff that gave me this idea)
For the front why not use a one-way instead of diff: easier to get right in my mind.
Oh, by the way: the hirobo diffs and belts look like they may work too but the y are extreme wide
Actually they are from an optima mid since they use that xl belt.
mvh isobarik
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:38 pm
by Jay Dub
I haven't checked out SDP's site in a while, but if memory serves they have both pulley stock for machining, as well as machined hardened pulleys with metric bores and setscrews. Basically direct replacements for the stock chain drive parts which look like they were probably originally sourced this way (as opposed to having them machined specifically for the car)
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:48 am
by Mr. ED
isobarik wrote:
Actually they are from an optima mid since they use that xl belt.
mvh isobarik
Oops I didn't find the thread and worked from memory. The triumph pulley is M3, but that could be a plus: easier to find replacement belts and different pulleys for the top axle. in different lengths when you're scratch building with parts from the hobbymarket.
The hirobo diffs and belt are a finer pitch: M2? Looks a lot like the aluminium ones shown for the radiant in yet another thread.
But availability wise they are not a real bonus, and I don't know if they exist as ball diffs either.
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:02 pm
by m_vice
Quick question, Where most of the chain drive car using the same chain back then? Like the Radiant and Optimas?

Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:43 am
by Bullfrog
maybe you need to do this to covert it to belt drive,
cheers Bullfrog
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:19 am
by AYKBOBCAT
Bullfrog wrote:maybe you need to do this to covert it to belt drive,
cheers Bullfrog
Nice, what pulley did you use and how did you glue it?
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:35 am
by JHarris
Let me take that inquiry a bit further.
What diff housings did you use?
What pulleys did you use and how are they grafted onto the diff housings, if they are separate?
What outdrives did you use?
Assuming the overall width is different, even if only slightly, what CVD's did you use?
Was this done on a Radiant, or a Pro Radiant?
What pitch and length belts did you use?
Where did you locate readily available parts for the conversion?
Part of my quest is to use parts which can be easily found, or made using readily available items. I want to be able to make or buy spare parts so that guys (or girls) aren't afraid to run the car out of fear of breaking.
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:29 am
by jwscab
here is his build thread, although some of the info you asking for is not in there, I would like to know also.
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10693
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:42 pm
by Bormac
Jeff- Rob had those pulleys machined from memory. I think they were then used along with the original parts.
The Lazer diff conversion is on its way to you as we speak. I think the Lazer ZXR is a better diff assembly than that of the AYK unit.
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 5:19 am
by Bullfrog
hi there, all the pulleys and belts were brought from this company in Australia
http://www.minibearings.com.au/ , they have all the pulleys and belts that you need, i got a company call Plastic Cut in Victoria to machine the plastic pulleys, when i showed the the original chain pulleys they told me they were able to make them as well if needed, I'll wole out all the sizes hopefully over the weekend and post some sizes
cheers Rob
Re: My Pro Radiant
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
by isobarik
Jay Dub wrote:I did allot of RD on the schumacher mission series of cars. And there was a reason we went away from the long belt connecting the two differentials of the car. If you are going to change it, why not run a short belt to the rear, and a long belt to the front from the layshaft only. I am not positive, but I should think the Lazer series of component from Kyosho would be a good place to start. There are plenty of spares about, and I would bet there are enough readily available parts already manufactured for some other car. my .02c -Jeff
What was the reason you went away with the long belt connecting the two diffs ???
mvh Isobarik