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Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:51 pm
by PlastiZapCA+
j-sou wrote:Awesome build! The brass tube work reminds me of 60s-70s slot car building.
That's where I stole the idea. :D I'm kicking around the idea of building a rail dragster from brass tubing later on. Soldering brass together with a torch is really enjoyable.

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:52 pm
by PlastiZapCA+
Asso_man! wrote:looking better every time! Keep up the good job.
Thanks! I hope to keep moving it a step further to completion every week.

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:44 am
by PlastiZapCA+
Got the 1/18 shocks in today but they just aren't going to cut it. The fronts don't have enough travel and even after adding 40wt shock fluid they end up being too weak. I doubt they would even support the weight of the car with the battery installed. It was worth a try though and the fronts will make perfect replacements for the side dampers on my LTO pan car. I just ordered a set of new Associated TC3 shocks with all the upgrades. This way I'll have a proven set of shocks that can be properly tuned with springs and fluid. I've also decided to cut a standard front tower for it as well. I'll probably cut one that's offset though. Looking at material for the body now and will place an order shortly. I'll be making some more parts for the car this weekend so more progress shots are coming. :D

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:59 am
by jwscab
It's the springs, not the shocks themselves. You might need to investigate touring car springs, or custom spin some from music wire.

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:06 am
by scr8p
you could try some old delta shocks from the custom works oval cars, pan car center shocks.....

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:53 am
by aeiou
Great work on this build!

The shocks on the car in the photo below kind of reminds me of Kyosho Scorpion/Tomahawk shocks. They've always had a more scale appearance (size-wise), IMO. They may be a bit hard to find, and scr8p will never forgive you for using them, but they might be an option as well. :D

There are a couple of photos of them in this thread. And I'm not sure who made them, but that set of shocks on shodog's Scorpion are pretty sweet.
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=242

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Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:06 pm
by jwscab
I just thought about something. I bought some springs as a replacement for some grasshopper springs and they ended up a bit heavy. What are the diameter of those rc18 shocks? I have a bunch of them(like a pack of 10 or something) and I can just send you some. They might be too long, but you can trim them to length if they are a reasonable diameter for the shocks.

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:20 am
by PlastiZapCA+
jwscab wrote:It's the springs, not the shocks themselves. You might need to investigate touring car springs, or custom spin some from music wire.
Without a doubt the springs. The springs it came with are too tightly coiled and weak. Here is the 1/18 front shock against my RC10L center shock. The 10L shock has the kind of coil spacing and strength I need. Just not sure who made that shock as it's not the same as the one most 10L's came with. Bolink?

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Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:31 am
by PlastiZapCA+
scr8p wrote:you could try some old delta shocks from the custom works oval cars, pan car center shocks.....
Tried searching for the delta shocks without luck. Well there is a set on the bay now for $199.00 but I think I'll have to pass. :mrgreen:

I wonder if these CRC shocks could do it? Looks close to the shock on my 10L. Think I'll order a set of their heavy springs and see if they work on the 1/18 shocks first.
http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/modules.php?name=Shopping_Cart&file=product&c_op=viewprod&prodID=7719063

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:36 am
by Phin
The center shock on your 10L is a Delta shock. ;)

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:39 am
by PlastiZapCA+
aeiou wrote:Great work on this build!

The shocks on the car in the photo below kind of reminds me of Kyosho Scorpion/Tomahawk shocks. They've always had a more scale appearance (size-wise), IMO. They may be a bit hard to find, and scr8p will never forgive you for using them, but they might be an option as well. :D

There are a couple of photos of them in this thread. And I'm not sure who made them, but that set of shocks on shodog's Scorpion are pretty sweet.
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=242
Those do look good but I'm setup to run short shocks on the rear. I'll figure something out I'm sure.

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:44 am
by PlastiZapCA+
Phin wrote:The center shock on your 10L is a Delta shock. ;)
It figures! So I just need three more. :lol: I don't think I'll be tearing that 10L down anytime soon.

I'll try the pan car springs on the 1/18 shocks first and then go from there. This problem is worth solving so I'll keep working on it.

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:55 am
by PlastiZapCA+
jwscab wrote:I just thought about something. I bought some springs as a replacement for some grasshopper springs and they ended up a bit heavy. What are the diameter of those rc18 shocks? I have a bunch of them(like a pack of 10 or something) and I can just send you some. They might be too long, but you can trim them to length if they are a reasonable diameter for the shocks.
I'll check out the diameter when I go out to the garage later today. I did order a set of CRC pan car springs though so I might have it solved. I'll hit you up if the CRC springs don't work out.

Tower shows Diameter: .40" (10.35mm) inside for stock springs.

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:24 pm
by GoMachV
The associated micro shock is pretty similar to the deltas...
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/4470/

Note these deltas and micros don't have much travel!

Re: RC10 Supermodified project (BME chassis).

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:15 am
by PlastiZapCA+
gomachv wrote:The associated micro shock is pretty similar to the deltas...
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/4470/

Note these deltas and micros don't have much travel!
Those look great actually. I'm hoping the new springs will do it for me though. I used the wrong terminology on the travel. I meant the coils were so weak they were bottoming out before the shock actually did. The springs have too many coils and bunched up before the shock could really do anything. Hopefully I can get the car up on it's wheels soon and then I can work on my front tower.