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Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:53 pm
by Coelacanth
JamieB wrote:Are these Kyosho Gold?

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The round shock caps likely mean those are Kyosho Golds. Boy, those were bashed but good!
Have no idea about these ones

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Yellow plastic shocks make me think Tamiya...Fox?

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:03 pm
by Incredible_Serious
JamieB wrote:Hi Guys,

I need some help with these shocks please.


Not sure if these are Schumacher? If so what sort of model and year if you know?

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Have no idea about these ones

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Any advice appreciated as always. Thanks in advance.

Jamie
The first ones are definitely Schumacher, they look like a mismatched colour set of Pro shocks, with upgrade alloy bottom shock seals.

The yellow ones are Kyosho Sport shocks, I used to have some like that, I'll see if I can find a picture.

Alex

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:07 pm
by JamieB
The gold ones came on an Intruder so likely are Kyosho. Yeah the rest of the car was pretty bad as well.

The suspected Schumacher ones also came with some Tomy bits which makes me think from a Schumacher around the same time. I could be miles off though.

No idea with the yellow ones. You are probably right with Tamiya. Thanks for the suggestions.

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:10 pm
by JamieB
Alex, our posts crossed, thanks for the extra info. Can you let me know what sort of car the Schumacher shocks would have come from? Hopefully something around the age of the Tomy Intuder as I will then fit them to one of my projects.

As for the yellow ones it would be good to see a pic so I can verify them.

You guys certainly know your stuff.

Thanks, I'm off for the night now, need to be up at 05:00!

Jamie

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:40 pm
by Incredible_Serious
Jamie,
JamieB wrote:Alex, our posts crossed, thanks for the extra info. Can you let me know what sort of car the Schumacher shocks would have come from? Hopefully something around the age of the Tomy Intuder as I will then fit them to one of my projects.
The bottom olive green Pro shocks would have been an option on cars from the Cougar2 or BossCat onwards. The top ones look to be silver, which would put them as possible standard shocks for the same period.
JamieB wrote:As for the yellow ones it would be good to see a pic so I can verify them.
Here's some pics of the ones I used to have.... note that mine were W5141Y, meaning short sport shocks in yellow... I think they also came in medium (W5142) and long (W5143), with a different letter to represent the colour.
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Alex

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:21 pm
by tamiyadan
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Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:36 pm
by R Cane
Thanks for the info. I hopefully will have a little time to spare this weekend, I'll see if I can tell anything further from the inside of the motor.

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:45 pm
by tamiyadan
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Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:03 pm
by R Cane
Cool. Thanks again, I'll post what I find after I take a look.

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:36 am
by R Cane
tamiyadan wrote:my feeling is you have a reedy motor and somebody just swapped the endbell out for the trinity one.

reedy used a black can but i don't think anything was stamped on the front of the can.
Mike usually scratched some information on the outside of the can around the bottom of the label, see if you spot some writing there.

i forgot trinity also used EPIC cnc endbells for a while they looked again like clones of the Kyosho and trinity bells, the EPIC bell had a rough texture like a cast with some machining while the Trinity looked cnc cut.

the brush heatsinks i messed up on they did come earlier then 1989 but they were bare colored, later was purple anodized.
You are probably right about a plain jane Reedy with an added endbell. There is nothing at all scratched onto the can. One thing I wanted to know about it is the wind - the "Mr. whatever" part of the label is too faded to read...so by taking it apart I at least know it's a quad...
As you can (hopefully) see in the pics, there's a big 43 on one side of the armature.
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Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:50 am
by jwscab
looks like a double wind to me. full armature so it's probably a higher turn, 16, 15?

Also, you can see why it needed a new endbell, probably lost the bearing, arm contacted the magnets at one point.

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:52 am
by R Cane
4 wires going into each solder point...or is that just a loop of 2 wires?

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:57 am
by jwscab
4 wires means double wind, 2 in, 2 out. a quad would have 8 wires, 4 in, 4 out. also, quads would need to have significantly smaller wire gauge to get all of them to fit.

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:58 am
by R Cane
Ah, got it. Thanks.

Re: The Official "What is it?" Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:17 pm
by tamiyadan
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