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Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:03 am
by hkp
Sweet piece of history...
I may have some pictures in my magazine stash.
There were some more 'bosscatty' prototypes in the UK after this car, again in the old mags. They had a more developed front end that was less ProCat. That said, this is indeed a prototype in every sense of the Bosscat. Please do not restore it, it is perfect as it as

Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:39 am
by Asso_man!
I wouldn't touch it either, restoring this car by adding new parts would totally ruin the piece of history it is as such. Don't peel that sticker and leave all that vintage dirt

But in the end, it's yours and you will do what pleases you, this thing truely belongs to a museum

Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:16 am
by Eau Rouge
Don't do anything to it, please! You'll be really ruining the car to "restore" it.

Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:36 am
by kenooze
I'm after the missing parts !
I'm really not sure to could find this, but I do my best !
For sure the label stay on the chassis, but I'm not enthousiaste to keep the car un-complete .
We will see !
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:59 am
by minimini
wow.......really a superb car !!!.........
but definitely needs a lot of effort in order to restore it........
BTW......as far as I can remember......the 1991' IFMAR 4WD off-road winner is Cliff Lett with YZ10 ??......
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:09 am
by Eau Rouge
minimini wrote:BTW......as far as I can remember......the 1991' IFMAR 4WD off-road winner is Cliff Lett with YZ10 ??......
I'm really lucky to found somwhere in Germany the old Schumacher Boss Cat prototype car from Detroit World 1991 .
He didn't say winner, just the Schumacher prototype from that event.

Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:22 am
by Bormac
The car I got had been living on a shelf out in a garage for more than 10 years. Most of the metal parts had either rusted or corroded so badly I ended up binning them. I saved what I could and have cleaned up the parts to as new. There was no soil left on it though,just dust and rust. The chassis looks like it might have been run just the once. To be honest up until now i was thinking of selling this car. Mine has the black side plates also and I have all the bits ready to back together. Ive even got the alloy adapters which allow you to run the Yokomo rims on the Schuey stubs. I kept the undertray and Andy's 89' WORLD's body which has the same paint scheme as his Topcat which I also have. These were the 2 reasons I fought so hard to win that huge auction lot a while back. But now i have 3 Procat's and 3 Topcat's. Not sure which if any I should sell off as its all getting a bit too much for me now.
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:42 am
by kenooze
To my point of vue, I prefer collect one car of each than too many of the same.
I try to have evry schumacher after collect AE, Losi, Traxxas, Yokomo & Predator...
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:17 am
by Jimbo
WOW! That prototype Bosscat looks like it was made from bits and bobs from the Schumacher parts bin

I agree with some of the other members on there, leave it as it is.
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:30 pm
by RETRO R/C
Super find - I to have one of these team cars. The car I have was owned by Darrin Campbell - a long time Schumacher driver back in the day. I actually have the original alloy motor/gearbox "mount" prototype that was made by Darrins father. This original was used to make the team part and a factory option. These cats have some real history, my one actually has the diff adapted at the rear to run RC10 driveshafts!!
Will have to take some pics - but wont post them here if you would rather have them on another thread.
Again - great find!
Cheers
Darryn
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:38 am
by Bormac
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:48 am
by Bormac
...and here was the pick I have from when I bought that auction lot. Yep and I had to sell that bodyset off a couple of weeks ago-

I still have the undertray though which I was intending to use along with Andy's 89' worlds fluro yellow and blue body set.

Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:02 am
by AD-RS1600i
Eau Rouge wrote:IMHO, don't you DARE restore or clean that car. Leave it exactly as it is, in exactly the same condition as it sits. It's one of those few RC vintage items that has pure history in it, and cleaning one spec of dust off of it would ruin the authenticity of the history. Instead, spend your time building a display case for it to be propped up and away from fingers, pets and the elements.
That right there is a historical marker in 4wd buggies in the world. It's no different than the original RC10 or the Masami World's cars. Any "restoration" or degradation of the visual history of that car would be a pure destruction to it as it sits.
That's too awesome to touch. Don't even breathe on it.

Well there's a case for both really - I'd rather see a completed car personally. And I still race one of the 1991 World's Storm 2000 competitor's (1/10th Truck) that finished about 91st lol! I think photos do history better justice - still I've seen the winning CAT XLS at the Schumacher factory and i'd never dream of using that - it's done it's racing, but it's totally as it finished that last race.....
Where did the Bosscat finish that year?

Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:24 pm
by AD-RS1600i
Forgot to say, thanks for posting all the pictures, absolutely great
Very interesting, I thought 'pro cat' until I noticed the belt and a few other details

it's certainly a hybrid of the two concepts..
Re: Schumacher Boss Cat 1991 Prototype from Detroit
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:12 pm
by mrlexan
To each his own, but I think I would assemble it but leave the existing parts just as is, dust, dirt, and all.