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Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:50 am
by 1300GT
I just noticed the bearing carriers in the motor pod. Looks like the rear will have adjustable height to compensate for tyre wear.
Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:35 am
by Lonestar
Mills announced, too... soooo cute...
https://www.redrc.net/2020/04/kyosho-le-mans-480t-brushless-motor/
or blue as a conversion kit (cosmetics only!)

Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:37 am
by 1300GT
Mine's on pre-order for $379Aud.

Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:47 am
by Bakauata
What an amazing piece of kit!
Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:39 am
by coxbros1
1300GT wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:37 am
Mine's on pre-order for $379Aud.
Where at?
Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:45 pm
by 1300GT
coxbros1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:39 am
1300GT wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:37 am
Mine's on pre-order for $379Aud.
Where at?
https://www.metrohobbies.com.au/products/kyosho-30635-fantom-1-12-4wd-on-road-rc-pan-car-kit-re-release
Here you go.

I forgot the 99 cents.
Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:57 pm
by coxbros1
Thanks, lol i had just found it

Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:59 am
by 1300GT
First video.
Https://youtu.be/fCaLgGQgynw
A bit of history too.
Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:36 am
by winner_evo
I'll have to see what the final price is in the UK, it will absolutely have to have the 480T

Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:37 am
by Lonestar
Thank you for pointing this!!!
at 2:42 we can also clearly see how, as suspected, the chain rubs on the battery... oh well

Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:41 am
by Lonestar
1300GT wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:50 am
I just noticed the bearing carriers in the motor pod. Looks like the rear will have adjustable height to compensate for tyre wear.
confirmed in the video indeed. Good guess!
Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:47 am
by winner_evo
Lonestar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:37 am
at 2:42 we can also clearly see how, as suspected, the chain rubs on the battery... oh well
That crossed my mind before the vid too, surely not....
Re: No-one talks about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re???
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:00 am
by Jirka
Some pics of the original car and from the race itself from the webpage of the father whose son was 3rd:

- 29 1983 3 RC Technology magazine All Japan Championship 1.jpg (70.55 KiB) Viewed 2359 times

- 29 1983 3 RC Technology magazine All Japan Championship 1.jpg (70.55 KiB) Viewed 2359 times
Jirka
Re: Now people can't stop talking about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re :D
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:59 am
by sundevil67
This is the last kit I expected Kyosho to re-release! I would have thought for sure they'd have gone to the Ultima Pro or Optima Mid series....simply because the market for these is limited to a tiny slice of die-hard vintage Kyosho fans who are also into 1/12. I thought it was pretty much me & a handful of guys I used to bid against & trade with for these things on eBay! I have a shelf queen, an 'almost' runner, and a NIB example, and am thrilled to be able to start running it again without worrying about finding replacement parts. I've been looking for a front-sprocket for one of these for probably 5 years now! Of course the rarity, mystique, and value of everything I have today will plummet. I suppose that it doesn't really matter since this is one part of my vintage Kyosho collection I know I was never going to part with. I only have 2 problems now - 1) scraping together the cash to buy one of these the moment one is available, and 2) finding a slice of pavement smooth enough to run it like I stole it. Now I really wish a carpet track could survive somewhere near where I live, but that's a pipe-dream I've given up on long ago. By the time I have it in my hands & am ready to run it, perhaps
702 Raceway will be open along with the rest of Las Vegas, and a road trip will be in order.
Re: Now people can't stop talking about the 1/12th Fantom 4wd re-re :D
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:31 pm
by XLR8
This is extremely cool to say the least but can it be a real "Kyosho" if it doesn't use zip ties to retain the battery?
Anyway, two thoughts immediately come to mind:
First, the car doesn't appear to have suspension. Is this correct?
Second, since the front tires are smaller than the rear, I reckon this is taken into account with the sprockets. I've only ever ran a 10L on foam tires and never an AWD on-road car but if it's anything like running on dirt, altering the f/r effective drive ratio will impact corner entry and exit performance. I can imagine racers bitd carrying a selection of tire compounds and tire diameters for track tuning purposes.
Just a very cool car and kudos to Kyosho for investing the money to bring it back.