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Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:34 am
by threesheds
Maybe the best thread to put this in..
Currently on eBay as hirobo Hilux, I'm not the only one finding mardave Apache tyres fit 44b wheels. Rockn' city, Vega, zerda compatible. Adaption, bodge or hopup, make your own mind up
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:11 pm
by silvertriple
threesheds wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:34 am
Maybe the best thread to put this in..
Currently on eBay as hirobo Hilux, I'm not the only one finding mardave Apache tyres fit 44b wheels. Rockn' city, Vega, zerda compatible. Adaption, bodge or hopup, make your own mind up
Saw these. Difficult to see the state as the threads are not really visible. Would love to find a set in proper state to be able to model them and maybe apply the same approach I'm currently taking for other tires to work out moulds... Clearly, it won't be those...
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:26 pm
by threesheds
silvertriple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:11 pm
threesheds wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:34 am
Maybe the best thread to put this in..
Currently on eBay as hirobo Hilux, I'm not the only one finding mardave Apache tyres fit 44b wheels. Rockn' city, Vega, zerda compatible. Adaption, bodge or hopup, make your own mind up
Saw these. Difficult to see the state as the threads are not really visible. Would love to find a set in proper state to be able to model them and maybe apply the same approach I'm currently taking for other tires to work out moulds... Clearly, it won't be those...
They look a bit worn and gluey, rims scratched. I'll post some pics of mine, maybe they'll help. I guess treads can be reconstructed in CAD
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:38 pm
by threesheds
I found mardave Apache tyres could be fit with some rubber strip to fill gaps between the profile of the tyre and the wheel.
I'll post pics if you want
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:51 pm
by silvertriple
threesheds wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:26 pm
They look a bit worn and gluey, rims scratched. I'll post some pics of mine, maybe they'll help. I guess treads can be reconstructed in CAD
The thing is that for being able to model a tire, I need proper measurement : I need to understand the way the profile looks, the thickness of the profile, the spikes positions and measurement, the number of spikes per row, etc... Ultimately, once you have all of this, it's fairly easy to get the model done... But at some point I'll have to find some tires to make this...
I have one friend who have depleted tires I may be able to work something out but the spikes are out... Pictures and measures of the spikes may help awaiting i got better tires (if you can get pics of the spikes with measurements and width of the rectangles and positions on the profile, that would certainly help)...
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:04 pm
by threesheds
Tyre dia. 80mm width 32mm . 20 rows of studs in pairs and threes alternating. Studs 4.5x6mm with 1x3dimple. Dimple abt 1mm deep. Stud height 3mm. Triple row 25.5mm. double row 19.5mm. wheel dia 40mm
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:07 am
by threesheds
silvertriple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:51 pm
threesheds wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:26 pm
They look a bit worn and gluey, rims scratched. I'll post some pics of mine, maybe they'll help. I guess treads can be reconstructed in CAD
The thing is that for being able to model a tire, I need proper measurement : I need to understand the way the profile looks, the thickness of the profile, the spikes positions and measurement, the number of spikes per row, etc... Ultimately, once you have all of this, it's fairly easy to get the model done... But at some point I'll have to find some tires to make this...
I have one friend who have depleted tires I may be able to work something out but the spikes are out... Pictures and measures of the spikes may help awaiting i got better tires (if you can get pics of the spikes with measurements and width of the rectangles and positions on the profile, that would certainly help)...
If you want mardave data let me know
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:22 am
by silvertriple
Very good data. Thanks a lot!
The most difficult is to get the internal profile right. I should get the complement data when I get my hands on my friend's depleted tires... It requires to unmount the tires and use a tool to measure the thickness in different points of the profile (below the picture of the tool i use)...
I record this pics in my Hirobo folder and as soon I have some time to deal with this, i'll get some model done
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:38 am
by dinglem
I picked up one of these last year, but haven't done anything with it. It was too cool to pass up, especially with the Associated shocks, CRP chassis plate and stadium truck bodyshell. Wheels and tyres look good too, plus it also has a new pair of rims and some new in packet red ball joints as well. I can't see me doing much with it though if i'm honest.
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:18 am
by threesheds
Well if it's on the market I'm sure there'll be takers. I might be tempted and silvertriple too? I can think of other competition.
Good tyres etc but obviously a few bodges to get a shell on it etc. You may have seen my 44b which I've had to put a "wrong" shell on. Rockn' city rhyming slang....
I got a grp chassis plate which I intend to fit sometime.
I got new tyres from Australia a while ago. And a few spares in an eBay lot
Truck body is interesting I've been wondering how one would look
Ta for pics
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:30 am
by threesheds
silvertriple wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:22 am
Very good data. Thanks a lot!
The most difficult is to get the internal profile right. I should get the complement data when I get my hands on my friend's depleted tires... It requires to unmount the tires and use a tool to measure the thickness in different points of the profile (below the picture of the tool i use)...
I record this pics in my Hirobo folder and as soon I have some time to deal with this, i'll get some model done
Interested to see your progress au revoir
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:07 am
by silvertriple
dinglem wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:38 am
I picked up one of these last year, but haven't done anything with it. It was too cool to pass up, especially with the Associated shocks, CRP chassis plate and stadium truck bodyshell. Wheels and tyres look good too, plus it also has a new pair of rims and some new in packet red ball joints as well. I can't see me doing much with it though if i'm honest.
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Hi Martin,
I would be very interested as I intend to model the 44B chassis (and in their differnet variants)... But i'm short in cash right now due to some recent ventures (including one not even disclosed yet in Marui area as the cars are not yet there)...
Nice set you have here, in anycase...
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:08 am
by threesheds
silvertriple wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:22 am
Very good data. Thanks a lot!
The most difficult is to get the internal profile right. I should get the complement data when I get my hands on my friend's depleted tires... It requires to unmount the tires and use a tool to measure the thickness in different points of the profile (below the picture of the tool i use)...
I record this pics in my Hirobo folder and as soon I have some time to deal with this, i'll get some model done
Rough measurement I make it 3mm thick under tread and 2mm walls also the 40mm inner dia of the tyre is a bit loose on the 40mm rim, I used some thin plastic to make it snug. There's a 2mm ridge on the inner dia to fit behind the rim of the wheel.
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:31 am
by dinglem
Yes i hadn't really thought about it but i guess it is available. I have sent both of you guys a PM.
Re: Hirobo 44B
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:10 am
by silvertriple
dinglem wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:31 am
Yes i hadn't really thought about it but i guess it is available. I have sent both of you guys a PM.
Did not received any PM. Did you tried to send me a mail (I may have deactivated that at some point) or di dyou tried to contact me by Messenger (Facebook - I'm there on my real name, but you may find me easily as I just published my Hirobo Bearcat SS files on Thingiverse)...
threesheds wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:08 am
silvertriple wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:22 am
Very good data. Thanks a lot!
The most difficult is to get the internal profile right. I should get the complement data when I get my hands on my friend's depleted tires... It requires to unmount the tires and use a tool to measure the thickness in different points of the profile (below the picture of the tool i use)...
I record this pics in my Hirobo folder and as soon I have some time to deal with this, i'll get some model done
Rough measurement I make it 3mm thick under tread and 2mm walls also the 40mm inner dia of the tyre is a bit loose on the 40mm rim, I used some thin plastic to make it snug. There's a 2mm ridge on the inner dia to fit behind the rim of the wheel.
Good! Thanks for this
I may even start before I get one tire in
Thanks a lot again