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Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:13 pm
by Charlie don't surf
marlo wrote:
vsefiream wrote: "the rere has been a very good thing! "
Now I hate sounding like a wet blanket here, and I am sure some know my views on the re-re. A renewed interest in the car? Yes. Damaging vintage part sales? Yes!!! In my collective mind opinion, the re-re was the worst thing that could have happened for collectability on these cars. Tamiya's re-re cars potentially can only help that market, but for some reason, I do not feel any positive effects can be gained with the RC10. Yes, I know, keeping runners alive and active is a good thing and I fully support the market, but feel greater effort should have been taken to make sure parts are more identifiable as new release Asian knock offs. :wink:
I'm also not very pleased about the ReRe- but like much like a collector of classic cars can tell a kit AC Cobra from a real AC Cobra...the Devil is in the details so while some can easily spot them, others do not-
While I'm happy to see the interest in the RC10 grow..the hobby was here before the ReRe, so I'm still uncertain that its going to generate the kind of vintage hobbyists that stick with it. (That might sound bad...sorry) so the ReRe brought you here and your super stoked!!! Cool...but we were here long before that, and could have been found before too...dunno, I have mixed feelings-

I'm really "miffed" that everyone industry-wise seems to avoid the site, or a lot.ANY recognition to the site, or members who built the vast info of the subject. All of the sudden there are a trove of "experts" that search.here...then answer via some other site

Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:18 pm
by shodog
I think it's safe to say that rc10talk has been The driving force in the popularity and collectibility of RC10's. If it wasn't for this site, the RC10 would only be a footnote on Tamiya clubs other makes section of their forum.

Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:21 pm
by marlo
shodog wrote:I think it's safe to say that rc10talk has been The driving force in the popularity and collectibility of RC10's. If it wasn't for this site, the RC10 would only be a footnote on Tamiya clubs other makes section of their forum.
Hear, hear :!:

Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:26 pm
by mdutcher
marlo wrote:
shodog wrote:I think it's safe to say that rc10talk has been The driving force in the popularity and collectibility of RC10's. If it wasn't for this site, the RC10 would only be a footnote on Tamiya clubs other makes section of their forum.
Hear, hear :!:
I had an RC10 back in the day as well. I was smitten by the buggy as it so far ahead of a lot of other offerings out there. Then, there was quite a long period where I was out of RC all together. RC10Talk has bridged that gap for me.

I have learned more than I ever thought possible from all of you guys on this forum. It is great and it has brought me back into RC with much enthusiasm for the vintage more than anything else.

I am a collector in my own way. I see the market for vintage coming back in a big way. The Re-Re has helped that momentum. There are guys at my local track that are taken a back when they see my vintage rides in the pit and the track. The memories start flowing. It is great.

I tell them about RC10Talk and then they are brought in. I see a lot of guys posting their projects of vintage restorations. I think that this is great.

Such a great forum. Thanks guys for helping the momentum continue.

Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:08 pm
by vsefiream
mdutcher wrote:
marlo wrote:
shodog wrote:I think it's safe to say that rc10talk has been The driving force in the popularity and collectibility of RC10's. If it wasn't for this site, the RC10 would only be a footnote on Tamiya clubs other makes section of their forum.
Hear, hear :!:
I had an RC10 back in the day as well. I was smitten by the buggy as it so far ahead of a lot of other offerings out there. Then, there was quite a long period where I was out of RC all together. RC10Talk has bridged that gap for me.

I have learned more than I ever thought possible from all of you guys on this forum. It is great and it has brought me back into RC with much enthusiasm for the vintage more than anything else.

I am a collector in my own way. I see the market for vintage coming back in a big way. The Re-Re has helped that momentum. There are guys at my local track that are taken a back when they see my vintage rides in the pit and the track. The memories start flowing. It is great.

I tell them about RC10Talk and then they are brought in. I see a lot of guys posting their projects of vintage restorations. I think that this is great.

Such a great forum. Thanks guys for helping the momentum continue.
Be forewarned, some frustrated rambling ahead;

Mdutcher and I travelled the exact same path. My first Hobby grade was a Mugen Manx in the mid 80's then an RC10 around 87. I had a few RC10's between then and '95 along with a handful of Tamiyas, 10l's 12lw, Hyper10, McAllister outlaw and a bunch I forgot about since then. I traded it all for slotcars around '95 and I still race them today. My brother and cousin pulled me back into RC three years ago and I have been fully submersed since. Long story short I am firmly rooted in the vintage stuff and have been involved since the mid 80's.
My opinion is just that and I don't mean to offend anybody when I express my positive attitude towards the rerelease. I don't own one, honestly don't really think I want one as it's not the same car. It's the experience I'm craving if that makes any sense? I am glad Associated made a solid effort in differentiating the rerealse parts and yes it takes a trained eye to tell them apart in many cases. I am miffed that most of the car is made off shore but that's the day we are in. I was laid off after 8 years on the job at Kodak back in 2003 as all of our production went to China. Since then I have watched everything follow suit and it bothers me to no end. I hate the trend but our drive to get everything cheaper has exploited the human rights situation in China. I'm getting off topic a bit but it is a huge circle.
In all as it related to the vintage scene, I see the rerelease as a positive. It has brought attention to the Vintage RC10 and maybe if only for a short time it has brought some people back. I can't get upset at Associated or Tamiya for that matter. If there wasn't a marketable demand for the products, they would not have brought it back. I'm glad to see it and I am grateful for the people that make up this board. Without you guys I would not be as RC10 knowledgeable as I have become with help from this board.
As far as some people trying to pass the rere off as a vintage rc10, I think that's going to happen and it's the truth with anything vintage. I see it in real cars, I see it in slot cars and I am sure I'll see it in RC10's. There is a saying, buyer be ware and A fool and his money are soon parted. We have all been there at some point and it's the buyer's responsability to be educated on their purchases right? I do my part to be as honest as I possibly can in all of my sales. Things will get missed and if it happens, I try my best to make it right. I think rather than worry about people passing off re-res as Vintage cars, we should be as informative to buyers as possible and continue to educate new members about our passion.
If you don't agree with my opinion or just plain don't like it, I don't blame you. We're all entitled to have out own ideas and I respect that.
Meanwhile, thanks to you guys, I'm going to go have some fun building a few more RC10's :D

Thanks!

Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:36 pm
by flipwils11
This is a cool thread to read through!

I am happy about the re-re. An original rc10 is like porn; you know it when you see it. I also agree with Reggie's callout about the people reading this site and then regurgitating info on another rc forum. Pathetic.

Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:23 pm
by clm
2500 kits.. but as soon as the box and manual are gone a chassis becomes a car.... how many rere chassis were/are being made waiting to be built and inflate that number?

Chris

Re: Why isn't the interest in RC-10 collecting very strong?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:37 pm
by LTO_Dave
flipwils11 wrote:An original rc10 is like porn; you know it when you see it.
Ahh, that explains why Thumbs is on here so often. :lol:

www.RC10Talk.com: Lovin' the RC10 before the RC10 was cool.