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T2 = Best truck Associated ever made.

RC10th wrote:T2 = Best truck Associated ever made to turn into a buggy.

fixed it.

Well, you are cornering the market on those.

The T2 had many firsts that worked well in both truck and cough cough.... Buggy.

For you T2 guys.....

I don't think he would mind me posting this, but while discussing the B1.5 concept awhile back I had asked BradR about his time at AE and how involved he was with R&D back then:

I didn't have much input in the R&D aspect. Bret, Jason (Ruona), and I were part of the non-California test team. They would send us prototype parts to test, but the design was pretty much determined by that point. One exception was the T2. They sent us a prototype T2 to test, which was a heavily modified RC10T. It had machined arms, towers, and 2.6 transmission. Bret, Jason, and I did some thorough testing with it (and our RC10T's) at Lake Park. We came to the conclusion that the new truck was easier to drive, but our old trucks were faster. The T2 went back to the drawing board, and that's why the suspension geometry on the production T2 was basically the same as the original RC10T.

It would be quite interesting to see what the prototype T2 looked like, just how different the geometry was compared to the production truck. The T2 being the first CAD designed vehicle probably opened it up to some "good on paper" designs.

Since it was designed in CAD, someone should post the file lol.

And since it was done in CAD, re-releasing it would be a snap.

Im all for a t2 rerelease.

Body close up...while I have always painted my bodies for myself, I must admit, the little tweaks he did to 'my' paint is awesome. Especially this:

Nice truck Joey. Can't wait to see it out tearing it up

I like that purple.

scr8p wrote:For you T2 guys.....

I don't think he would mind me posting this, but while discussing the B1.5 concept awhile back I had asked BradR about his time at AE and how involved he was with R&D back then:

I didn't have much input in the R&D aspect. Bret, Jason (Ruona), and I were part of the non-California test team. They would send us prototype parts to test, but the design was pretty much determined by that point. One exception was the T2. They sent us a prototype T2 to test, which was a heavily modified RC10T. It had machined arms, towers, and 2.6 transmission. Bret, Jason, and I did some thorough testing with it (and our RC10T's) at Lake Park. We came to the conclusion that the new truck was easier to drive, but our old trucks were faster. The T2 went back to the drawing board, and that's why the suspension geometry on the production T2 was basically the same as the original RC10T.

i'm pretty sure this early testing is the reason why the team relocated the t2 rear shock tower to the front of the bulkhead, along with relocating the shocks to the rear of the shock tower.

according to rc car action's description of mark pavidis's 1997 norrca winning t2 truck this relocation mod put the rear shocks closer to the center of the rear arms to reduce rear arm flex. it was done for both mod and stock.




in it's last days the rc10t also had it's own modification to the rear shock tower. they raised it farther up and added custom rear shock mounts to the rear arms. the body had to be modified to fit the new higher shock tower.

i remember asking daryl lane and ruffy about a prototype shock tower that was being used on the rc10t. i thought daryl might of had something to do with that prototype rear tower. because it looked very "A&L"ish looking. he didn't. it was custom from associated. this is what ruffy told me about that prototype rear shock tower when i asked him about it a while ago:

"This is a tough one to remember, but from what I can recall:

These were prototype towers that Associated had made for the Nat's and provided to most of the team drivers. I remember having them on my truck but I can't remember if these were the runs made by Composite Craft or not. They may have been CC made towers as I recall we also made the lower shock mounts of graphite too.
To my recollection, the new towers being tested with the lower shock mounts mounted onto the rear arm greatly enhanced the trucks side-to-side stability, and also allowed the truck to dampen more appropriately larger jumps as we had more "up" travel with them so we could soak up larger jumps before bottoming out the shock. The new towers actually also moved the shock upwards further into the lexan body which would have lowered the trucks overall ride height had it not been for the lower mounts that attached to the existing arms. The lower mounts were mainly to account for this rise into the body.
We had to modify the existing bodies at the time, by heating the shock cavity areas with heat guns and using a soft round object to push into the cavity to provide us more "shock cavity height" in the body for the taller shock towers.

Hope this helps.
Ruffy"

"I can't recall doing anything special with the shocks. More than likely we ran them without limiters so we would have the down travel and the up travel. I am sure though that we experimented with limiters, but cannot remember, apologies as this was a long time ago.


regards,
Ruffy"

this is the rear prototype shock tower. mentioned in rcca 1995 feb., for the roar truck nats:

ruffy's truck with the modded body, raised shock tower, and carbon shock mounts.

Wow, nice truck!

Ruffy has all the cool stuff

LOL...my shocks to the back of the tower mod is underway....

Hmmm? Plastic shock caps on the 10T and aluminium on the T2.