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Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:06 am
by Percymon
J'MM'N wrote:I'm thinking a 21.5t is similar to an old silver can motor and a 17.5t been more comparable to an old 27t standard motor. So I'm going to start with a 17.5t with no boost or timing and see how that feels and then maybe play about with a few adjustments. But I'm guessing it'll be near the limit between driving the car and trying to keep it all together, both in driving and car maintenance.
and its this that makes me wonder why bother with brushless, particularly if you aren't going to use the programmability / boost functions ?
a silver can motor and a brushed esc for $30 is all you need for a bit of low risk running.
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:19 am
by scr8p
i got an idea......
stop worrying about the car you're not going to touch for at least 2 more months and go build something
now. or just visit one of the other 30 forums on this site. they need some love too, ya know.
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:45 am
by Percymon
scr8p wrote:i got an idea......
stop worrying about the car you're not going to touch for at least 2 more months and go build something now.
I'm doing my best..
Optima Mid Custom Special 90% restored
Optima Mid SWB - 50% restored
Optima - awaiting strip/rebuild/restoration
Progress - awaiting strip/rebuild/restoration
B4 - rebuild, on the workbench with a pile of new parts waiting to install
RC10 Team Car on route (will need attention for sure )
Tamiya Super Champ awaiting restoration
oh shoot, not sure I can sort that lot in two months
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:07 am
by scr8p
Pfft.... optimas. Like they count.
j/k
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:38 am
by askbob
scr8p wrote:i got an idea......
stop worrying about the car you're not going to touch for at least 2 more months and go build something
now. or just visit one of the other 30 forums on this site. they need some love too, ya know.
This from a guy with half a dozen or so ongoing Kyosho builds?.....
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:21 am
by ca-rj
I've got a silver can in my son's B4.1 and it's really slow. Perfect for a 2.5 year old, but pretty slow to me. I'd recommend something quicker and think it would be a complete waste of money to have a brushless motor this speed.
J'MM'N wrote:I'm thinking a 21.5t is similar to an old silver can motor and a 17.5t been more comparable to an old 27t standard motor. So I'm going to start with a 17.5t with no boost or timing and see how that feels and then maybe play about with a few adjustments. But I'm guessing it'll be near the limit between driving the car and trying to keep it all together, both in driving and car maintenance.
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:50 am
by JK Racing
Lonestar wrote:10.5 boosted is wicked fast when done right... in onroad it's roughly equivalent to last-gen 12 turns before BL took over. It's way too fast for a lot of people. 10.5 unboosted + lipo is already very competitve a powerplant in 2wd on a modern track...
Which is why I suggest a 1 cell lipo. I've seen boosted 21.5 motors outrun blinky 17.5 motors with ease. All in the gearing and boost settings.
My point is to try and standardize a vintage class, have it feel like a vintage car in terms of acceleration and top speed. I think 1 cell 10.5 motor is a good starting point. I dont think it will feel like a 12T brushed motor, probably a little better than a silver can, but will no maintenance and killer run times. Something that wont blister the stock tires or kill the non-slipper external diff.
Back to car building....I've got some Losi's that need attention
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:16 am
by limestang
Is there a thread that lists motor, ESC, and battery combinations along with a summary of the performance, cost and supplier? If not, that would be a great addition.
- Limestang
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:43 pm
by Lonestar
limestang wrote:Is there a thread that lists motor, ESC, and battery combinations along with a summary of the performance, cost and supplier? If not, that would be a great addition.
- Limestang
no
that d be thousands of lines long!
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:17 pm
by R/Cat
Lonestar wrote:10.5 boosted is wicked fast when done right... in onroad it's roughly equivalent to last-gen 12 turns before BL took over. It's way too fast for a lot of people. 10.5 unboosted + lipo is already very competitve a powerplant in 2wd on a modern track...
I think people need to remember this is a short-armed Rc10 without slipper here... in other words, it handles like a 30y.o. car, closer to a Tamiya Frog than a B4... the most gentle motor you put in it, the likelier you will feel that it doesn't handle like a POS and will want to throw it against the wall after the first pack... 21.5T looks the only reasonable choice to me unless one likes disappointments...
Paul
(who ordered 2 kits, so not like I don't like the car!)
I agree which is one reason I'm going with a Trinity/Kinwald Dirtinator 10T brushed motor, Novak T4 ESC and Nimh batteries most of the time with occasional lipo run for fun. The other is I think I'll enjoy the nostalgic experience of a vintage car like this the most if it has period-correct brushed power.
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:14 pm
by proffesso
ca-rj wrote:I've got a silver can in my son's B4.1 and it's really slow. Perfect for a 2.5 year old, but pretty slow to me. I'd recommend something quicker and think it would be a complete waste of money
brushless / lipo for runtime
thats the reason im kitting out most of my cars with brushless..,5min runs are hopefully a thing of the past
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:54 am
by ca-rj
On a 6 cell nimh and the silver can his car runs forever--over an hour anyway. For motors that slow, you're going to get bored before the pack dumps. His setup cost less than $40 (motor/esc).
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:22 am
by proffesso
an hour? damn, I remember only getting 7 - 10min
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:34 pm
by Momo5
The price for the rere is already up on the bay...unreal.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Team-Assocuated-RC10-15th-Anniversary-Edition-6001-/221247400232?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item33835f6928
Maybe this is the rare "Assocuated" version. Oh and the 15th anniversary edition.
Re: Intriguing ad in RC Car Action - RC10 re-release?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:10 pm
by R/Cat
lol...unreal, indeed. They are marking it up by ~$85-$100 over what many have pre-ordered them for so I'm not sure they'll get a lot of early orders from people who have shopped around. At that price they'll get the Johnny-come-lately guys who missed out initially and want one badly.