Hi there i have dug out the old cat that i got in an trade last summer.
I changed the plastic shockbodies to tefloncoated alu and uppgraded with some titaniumracing bits.
As i was working at the car i noticed thet the previuos owner had som standing shocktowers and i ask myself should i stay or should i go....so any suggestions from schuie owners wich one is the best ??? Feels more right to standing but since i have never driven an Cat2k/ec i had to ask.
The Schumacher team drivers I've spoken to swear that the original CAT 2000 with the stand up shocks was the best of the lot. Conventional chassis dynamics theory also says that stand up shocks are superior.
From my limited experience of driving the CAT 2000 (about three races) versus the CAT 2000 E.C. (much the same as the S.E.), the laydown shocks made the car feel very easy to drive, but ultimately they don't make the car faster and also cause big problems with jumps - you really compromise the handling over the bumps to get the chassis stiff enough to stop it bottoming out and landing badly from big air.
Jukka steenari won an euro with laydown if dont remember it wrong.
But i think i will convert it to standings anyway.
I have taken some alu bodies instead of the plastic that came with the car. Does the ec/se and cat2k use the same lenght shocks ??? 100mm in rear and 80mm in the front ???
The CAT 2000 E.C. (stands for "European Championship" - after the championships that Jukka won) wasn't a bad car, but there's a reason why 95% of off-road buggies have shocks at more conventional upright angles
Not sure about the shock lengths, would have to check the shocK shaft part number in the manuals & compare them.
I think it has a lot to do with the type of tracks you will drive. The lay down shocks would probably be better for hard packed dirt and grass with more rounded jumps and bumps or even indoors. But for high traction blue groove tracks with big jumps and table tops, muddy or dusty tracks I think you will have trouble balancing traction vs. ability to take big hits. Basically what minichamps said.
Had the shock towers at home so i could turn it around to standings instead .
yes i know its only fiberglass but it was in the box so i just tried do it.
Not modded the front yet missing some parts.
The principles are pretty simple realy. Take an 1/8th scale nitro on roader, the shocks are layed right over for the heavy cornering the chassis will suffer. The car is designed around a very flat and super high speed type of racing.
Now think off road. Bumps, jumps etc...I'd hate to say it but shocks standing up (or close too it) perform better and thats why even the most modern up to date designs incorporate the upright layout. While some of the laydown type designs have proven well throughout the U.K. and Europe you'll find their tracks a little different from those found in other parts of the world.
While i was hooked on the E.C. years back i now own the original 2000 by choice.
J - I agree. EC felt easy to drive on grass but it's not the fastest car out there, especially if the track has big jumps. Mine kept bottoming out and then flipping over on it's arse.
I got an new reciver and i had to try it so i mounted in an servo reciver and an old Tekin 411p, 13 double trinity and hardwiered it to an old sanyo 2000 batteri that hadnt been used since 98 or something like that.
I couldnt find 1 singel 48 pitch pinion so i dug up some 64 pitch spur an hpi exactly 106 teeth and now the problem was to have an big 64 pitch pinion the biggest i found was 23 but i was never near to touch the spur.
When i was digging and digging in to stuff to find some pinion that would fit or an bigger spur i tried to fit the one from my tf4r but the hole didnt match but hey there in the tf4r box was an 36 pitch pinion inside and what the heck it did touch the spur so i used it.
When i looked at it and drove the car it was very smooth and quiet and i was woundering about how much overgeared it was.
Any way the batteri didnt last long and the seedo was hot but hey it worked.
So this morning when i was searching for an manual to the Cat ec to find out how much over geared it was.
The CAT 2000 series (EC SE 98) and CAT 3000 share many parts but they have different motor and battery layouts. Is a universal chassis with holes to support the different layouts feasible or is there a significant difference between the layouts?...
hi all, found this forum at the weekend after i had a garage clearout and found my cat 2000 from my youth!!
my reason for posting is im thinking of restoring the cat and was wondering if there are many spares available?
the car needs(that i know...
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cheers for all the help guys but my boy has decided he wants a nitro truck instead of this so it'll be goin on the dreaded egay and ill be buyin him a truck
once again thanks for all ur input
Ok, so I picked this cat up advertised as a Cat 2000 98. I guess I misread the ad because I thought it was an EC.
You can see in the pics the box is a Cat 2000 EC box with a very faded Cat 98 sticker over it. The car does have the 98 chassis but...
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I do have a pair of bladed drives. They are different length so I am think front and back but I haven't torn the car down to check yet.
Let's move this convo to the BST so we can stay within the forum rules.
Another car to add to my growing list of projects, god knows when I'll actually start rebuilding these cars, I'm just collecting as many vintage buggys as I can, I need help!!
Anyhoo, here's the latest. A Cat 2000 I got from eBay. All seems pretty...
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Hi Nick
Nice car mate, the lower chassis is off a cat 2000ec, not from this cat 2000,
Mick
Cheers Mick :wink:
I'll have to do some research, for 'when' I start the restore.
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The following pictures of a CAT 2000 top deck (possibly part # U1518 ) and a CAT 2000 EC top deck (possibly part # U1793) are posted in light of your video comments regarding CAT 2000 rear shock tower placement. Based on the pictures, it appears the...