and the graphite finally makes an appearance

[coxbros1]

If you search 6030 associated it should pop up through absolute hobbyz. It was prematurely added and if you see the pics and click them it won't go anywhere right now. Basically it's a leak, but if you read the details and study the pic, it seems pretty legit

I tried and said unavailable no pic at Absolute

[RCveteran]

Give it a day or two, it will be up for pre-order with no specified date and 4 other versions will be announced in the interim. I've got a couple already but may wait for the Green Team Graphite Worlds limited number with Chrome wheels edition.

[GoMachV]

Likely as it was removed, same exact thing AE has been doing with almost every release. Try googling "absolutehobbyz.com team-associated-6030-rc10-graphite-kit" and its the first one that pops up, but the link wont take you anywhere

[RCveteran]

It would be interesting and of course no way to know how many of these are being bought by some random person either online or walking into local Hobby Shop who has no nostalgia or vintage connection per se. Just, that looks interesting, why not type buy. Of course I feel sorry for them when they realize what they got for the price. I don't mean that in a RC10 bad way, just for the money if they have anything remotely modern in their collection of toys, would be pretty shocking.

Those of us who are probably here recognize we are paying for nostalgia, bad manual with mistakes and the need to "improvise" to get it to together and working. Are we enlightened or gluttons for punishment.

[Dangeruss]

Are we enlightened or gluttons for punishment.

I would have gone with "suckers".

[RCveteran]

Also, though as critical as I can be I also see it as sort of cool the way they are churning these out. I am not a collector for investment or rarity type. The fact that 40 years later a Taiwanese conglomerate Is even bothering to sell something designed in SoCal long long ago, by people long gone and a company that has been a subsidiary for the better part of 20 years or so. I doubt Thunder Tiger would even notice if these were never even re released. They will come and go. Not a lot of things outside this world like that. Imagine a car company building brand new 1988 Fieros for me today, I'd be in at any price.

End of day, kinda cool it still has legs, or as you said, maybe it has no legs and just suckers willing to buy

[Dangeruss]

I doubt Thunder Tiger would even notice if these were never even re released. They will come and go. Not a lot of things outside this world like that. Imagine a car company building brand new 1988 Fieros for me today, I'd be in at any price.

They wouldn't produce 'em if it didn't make money. Kyosho and Tamiya are big re-releases so, as sad as it is Associated is a subsidiary of a larger foreign conglomerate that's playing "me to", it kinda works out to be beneficial. Like I'd mentioned in another thread... which is worse... Associated being owned by a Taiwanese company that makes products its customer base likes, or Losi being owned by an American company that ignores its customer base and the products they like.

No one's gotten to a Fiero yet... but there was the Prowler, New Beetle, Challenger, Camaro, Mustang, Mini Cooper... maybe after everyone gets bored of this wave of crossover cute utes like they did the jelly bean cars of the 90's they'll start doing retro cars again... from like, all the way back in the 1980's

[XLR8]

I'm on the fence with this one. While the concept of a carbon plate chassis is very cool, the RC10 Graphite car was universally rejected by the racing community bitd. Also, I've driven mine and it just doesn't handle as well as my tub cars.
It would be nice to add a Graphite re-re to the collection but I'll probably let this one go.

That would depend on your racing community. Oval racing was full of them.

Yes it does. Our "community" mostly raced off-road. I recall that some tried the Graphite and eventually returned to running their tub cars. I thought maybe Roger got it right the first time.
Anyway, I have a Graphite today only because the chassis plate and other related bits and pieces were included with a box of parts that I bought from ebay. Except for painting the body, the car has been restored and because the Graphite is a part of AE history, I'm happy to have it in my collection. If I didn't already have a Graphite, I'd probably be more interested in the new re-re.

[RCveteran]

I doubt Thunder Tiger would even notice if these were never even re released. They will come and go. Not a lot of things outside this world like that. Imagine a car company building brand new 1988 Fieros for me today, I'd be in at any price.

They wouldn't produce 'em if it didn't make money.

I agree, hard to convey thoughts on the web at times. I meant it more in the way of Nestle stopped offering one type of cookie I like. Yes Nestle may make a bit less money but the company still survives just fine. So I am glad Thunder Tiger even thinks of us and makes the cookie I want, they don't have to. We all wish the cookie was cheaper but that is business which most seem to worship at the altar of until it works against them

[badhoopty]

all this talk about price... somebody explain to my why a rere optima or procat kit is cheaper than a bare bones rc10.

[Rc10812]

I'm pretty disappointed to see this kit will come with a 6 gear tranny. Now I'm feeling even better that I decided to pick up one of these new team car kits. That has a stealth tranny in it. Anyone else get the sense that AE should offer the stealth tranny as a kit on its own? That way anyone purchasing these new re releases will have that performance upgrade option if they want it. Otherwise I kind of feel like the Fan RC FR-01 does a good enough job offering a graphite "rc10" already. I don't know but I might prefer that kit to a legit re release AE graphite kit without a stealth in it. Now, an AE graphite kit that does have an AE stealth... well that's a different story. Although close to the same as an FR-01 nothing beats the real deal.

[Dangeruss]

Kind of a mixed bag... Price makes you wonder if Lett and the gang aren't jacking it up and pocketing the difference. Sure, logic dictates it's "what the market will bear" but the mental image paints a funny picture. Speaking of pictures, maybe the Graphite will come with a template for drilling Stealth mounts... opps, no manual...

A/E vs. Fan is an excellent juxtaposition... If the A/E Graphite is no more original than the Fan Graphite and Fan parts are available separately as spares, is the upsell for A/E basically...

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Though RCveteran makes an excellent comparison... what if your favorite cookie company re-released your favorite cookie... in new packaging... with a different recipe... that doesn't taste quite as good...

My thoughts?... all the sudden I want cookies.

[RCveteran]

The original graphite car was 6 gear so this is that in essence. I mean if we are talking what is best for performance I don't think these, cool as they may be, would be a contender today.

I also don't think Lett and the guys we like to name here have nearly any real say in it. These decisions like all Thunder Tiger products come from the factory and operation in Taiwan I suspect.

Price, I suspect they have found a point people are willing to pay and so they do. It's clearly not based on rational relative to other vintage rere's, new cars, or anything remotely like that.

If I was in the board room I would basically say, "The same group of fanatics will buy 7,567 of these if we make them and charge $400. If we charge $350, the same group of 7,657 guys will show up plus one random dude who picked it over a Bandit RTR and regretted it, OK, $400 it is"

[R6cowboy]

Regarding prices, they just understand today's market of consumerism.

[RCveteran]

Regarding prices, they just understand today's market of consumerism.

Way too level headed, you need to be on FB whining about how AE has wronged you personally, then make a few YouTube videos telling them how you would run their business, otherwise your opinion does not matter