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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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Haven't tried red dye but I found a Caswell forum post on their red dye problems.
https://forum.caswellplating.com/forum/anodizing-questions/1659-dye-problems

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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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So I had this servo arm from a previous build and decided to try and sand and polish only portions of it.
Had no idea if the anodizing of the electric blue would effect the existing black anodizing but thought I'd give it a try.
A very small part that really won't be seen but well worth the effort to experiment :D

First sanded and polished the upper front, back and sides....
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Then anodized, dyed and sealed.


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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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Tried a little experiment with a 1/2" X 1/2" block of 6061 t6 aluminum.

Question was, how deep of a shade of blue could be achieved with the exact same electric blue I used on all the other parts.
Most all of the other parts are Duralumin.
Decided to anodize to 1mil (as thick as can be achieved without going to hard anodizing), heat the dye to 140 degrees and let it stay in the dye for 30 minutes.
All of the previously anodized parts were in the dye at 100 degrees for 1 minute.
The difference kind of surprised me.

The second pic also has a pair of AE shock bushings. The test block is almost an exact match to the FT blue. Just a little darker.

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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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Decided to test fit and trim the belt covers.

Probably will use 3M double stick to hold the covers and just a couple screws.

Some basic assembly of the chassis is required and I wanted to see a few of the other parts assembled.
A couple screw holes need a little drop of CA to "tighten" them up but all in all the sub assembly went fairly smooth.

Not so sure of the look of button head screws with their washers. I think maybe the flathead look better.

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I did add the small hose clamp rubber thingy/seal from the transmission to upper belt cover.
It works OK, better than nothing.
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Still haven't anodized the chassis. I would leave it polished but all you have to do is look at it cross-eyed and it gets scratched.


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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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A little better close up of my mod to seal the upper belt cover. The original piece's Kyosho part# is apparently OT-103.
Also recessing the screw under the upper belt cover so the belt cover can be flush to the upper deck.
I left a small portion of the metal in the rubber part to maybe get it to seal against the cover better, I may not leave it in.

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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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And a close up of the old upper deck... tried to remove many layers of CA and GKW but it looked pretty terrible.
And the nice new deck from GoMachV. Way better!
The new deck will never see glue or any adhesive, only double sided tape that can be easily removed.
Also wont need so many screws to hold it in place.

Even wet sanded the edges and ran some CA over the edges to give a cleaner look.
We used to do the CA edges on all the CF chassis BITD to keep them from splitting so bad but it also makes them look nicer.


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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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Hey Chuck,

What an awesome thread you got there, congratulations on a super detailed build!

I have build many Mids and Optimas, but never to that level! Then again, I have never tried anodizing parts.

Lots of great tips as well.

I cannot wait to see the end result!

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A few "smalls" from all over the globe that I've gotten recently.
Getting the right color is pretty much an educated guess. Then wait a month or more...


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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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Fortunately that light blue anodize is a very common and consistent shade of blue. The darker navy blue anodize is much more uncommon.
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Small updates...

I took out the button head screws and replaced them.
I think I like the look of the flat head screws with washers better.

Also trimmed c-clips to fit in washers for the front and rear suspension shafts.
These also were just enough to eliminate a little shaft endplay.

I got some 4mm screws and anodized washers that retain the new upper deck to the front diff housing.

And a change to the shock mounts, pretty clean now.

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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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While doing a preliminary mock-up to check fit and finish of all the parts I ran into a couple issues.

1. Front C-hubs- the upper pivot ball hole was totally stripped out. :x
2. Motor plate holes for gear cover are almost stripped. :x
3. Shock springs were still fairly rough even after using a Dremel cotton wheel with compound and elbow grease. :|

Started with the shock springs, the easiest fix...
You have to look close at the original spring on the right but the surface still had crust or corrosion or something on it. It just wasn't nice and smooth.
Having the 8" cotton wheel on the bench grinder and some medium grit polishing compound I carefully brought them to a nice shine.
That worked way, way better than the Dremel.
May dust them with Tamiya PS31 to bring back the original color. I think they were originally the "medium springs" blackish in color springs.

I did look at other, colored, springs as a possible option.
The vintage Losi springs a51xx are the correct diameter, while most other springs for 10mm shocks are too small. 12mm modern shock springs are too large.

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Ordered new C-hubs, so whenever they get here that will be remedied...

New motor plate??

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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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Hung a few more pieces on the chassis to check alignment, adjust tie rods and check for anything that I've missed so far.
And I put the rear shock tower on correctly :oops: :oops: :oops:

The springs look a lot better after their tint job.
The car still needs to come back apart for bearings and C-hubs.
And I need to make up my mind on the chassis color. Kind of been liking the polished clear look but maybe electric blue??
Then maybe on to the body.

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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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That looks BLOO-tiful, Chuck. 8)
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I'm voting for a blue chassis :) Anyway the car is wonderful !

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Re: Turbo Optima mid SE

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I didn't really like the rear plate in black glass.
Going to try and trim up some aluminum to replace it.
Just a rough cut right now, plenty of sanding/polishing ahead.
Then try to match the anodizing.


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