Very nice build! Should not run backwards If he rotated the endbell! The motor will not be as efficient, just make sure you add a little advanced timing!
Thsi is a cool car LTOdave. I too like the use of the AE tool to dress it up. Also, ingeneous use of the mcallister RC10 lowering tower on the rear of the car! Is that what the directions for the conversion say to do, or did you come up with it yourself?
Side note/question - How did all these onroad conversions perform BITD? I mean, they probably couldn't well hang with a full pan car, (this one maybe w/ the DD) but did they handle well? I used to think that these things looked goofy with independent A arms out back with the little 10L front blocks or beams up front - incongruent/imbalanced....I guess tastes change !
losiXXXman wrote:Thsi is a cool car LTOdave. I too like the use of the AE tool to dress it up. Also, ingeneous use of the mcallister RC10 lowering tower on the rear of the car! Is that what the directions for the conversion say to do, or did you come up with it yourself?
The chassis had a small hole in the center of the rear, possibly for a bumper. But after trying several different shock tower designs and shock mounting locations, I decided to countersink the hole and use the extra lowering kit piece I had. It was the easiest way I could come up with to mount the shocks...and it looks cool.
I updated my other post about flipping the endbell, so it spins forward now.
Hey dave, don't know your taste for Ultimas, but this same chassis in an Ultima conversion came up the other day on ebay. He had it @ 35BIN or minbid $25. I put it in my watch list to think about, but when I cam back the next day - SOLD.... I hope to see it come back over on the kyosho forum
losiXXXman wrote:Hey dave, don't know your taste for Ultimas, but this same chassis in an Ultima conversion came up the other day on ebay. He had it @ 35BIN or minbid $25. I put it in my watch list to think about, but when I cam back the next day - SOLD.... I hope to see it come back over on the kyosho forum
I'm not as much of a Kyosho fan as scr8p, but I've always wanted to build and Ultima oval conversion.
I just did a search of completed listings and found that chassis, which was in nice shape for the price. I definitely would have bid if I would have seen it. The hardest part would be finding a front axle that fits since it used the setup found on the older HyperDrive cars like the HS-10 I think. With some measurements from Phin, it looks like the AE 10L parts won't fit that chassis.
I guess I need to expand my ebay searches to something other than RC10.
First of it it looks cool, chunky and retro, which is always good.
But I do not get some things about this car. Why design it with the motor hanging right out to one side. Surely that will affect its handling. Also why belt drive over a pinion meshing with a spur gear? Seems like an over complication and adding extra mass (not just the belt which is irrelevant, but the longer solid metal supports to move the motor further away). Does any rc car use this idea any more?
How about adding a second motor to the other side. You know you want to. Should be rather nippy and better balanced!
In fact add another transmission to the front and go for quad motors! That would be a weapon of mass (self) destruction
kink wrote:First of it it looks cool, chunky and retro, which is always good.
But I do not get some things about this car. Why design it with the motor hanging right out to one side. Surely that will affect its handling. Also why belt drive over a pinion meshing with a spur gear? Seems like an over complication and adding extra mass (not just the belt which is irrelevant, but the longer solid metal supports to move the motor further away). Does any rc car use this idea any more?
the motor hangs off to one side because it's a direct drive trans. and if you were oval racing, it's not a big deal. the length of the trans has nothing to do with the belt drive either, that's just how a j-car trans is made. i'm sure he put it on this car because they're both made by hyperdrive, the chassis kit and belt drive. but you could put a hyperdrive belt conversion a 6 gear trans if you wanted to.
kink wrote:But I do not get some things about this car. Why design it with the motor hanging right out to one side. Surely that will affect its handling. Also why belt drive over a pinion meshing with a spur gear? Seems like an over complication and adding extra mass (not just the belt which is irrelevant, but the longer solid metal supports to move the motor further away). Does any rc car use this idea any more?
If you look at R/C across the span of history, just think of all the cool things we'd have missed out on if practicality was in the forefront of every designer's mind.
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I have a similar Track Master direct drive. Before building a proper mid motor like Dave's, I had it hanging off a 10T hybrid (buggy with 10T front end). The buggy was named "Mantis" on the first run as it pulled wheelies all over the yard with a brushed motor. Picture those buggy wheels up in the air ready to strike. A totally impractical BLAST!