Will the Re-Re Madness ever stop?

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This could be debated forever and it probably will be. I see valid points in every post and I can't come up with a definate yes or no on the re-re's. I look at it from the perspective as if the 6010 was re-re'd tomorrow, would it ruin some of the enjoyment I have now messing with my vintage ones? Absolutely. But would I be tempted to buy one NIB, put it together, and run the hell out of it knowing I can get parts and my mint vintage ones can stay on the shelf? Probably
I do have much more disposeable income than I did when I was 15 as most people do so that does come into play. My first car was a Fox and I would love to put a NIB kit together again. I do agree with everyone in that I wish they would be true to the original or call them something different or a II, III. I say if you don't like them don't buy them and keep enjoying what you do, knowing they are vintage and enjoying that fact. It doesn't matter what other may have or think. If you want something that you didn't have before then buy one and enjoy that for what it is. As far a affecting vintage prices I don't know. As it have been said before, if you collect these things for financial gain then I suggest investing your money elsewhere.

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Re: Will the Re-Re Madness ever stop?

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Another thought comes to mind...

I don't know if re-res would inspire me to rebuild all the cars of my youth in some weird re-living-my-life thing...the way I see it, their time came & went.

On the other hand, if I had a young son, introducing him to his first build-your-own kit RC car "like the ones I made BITD" would be a ton of fun. :)
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I'd love to see a re release of the Fox. That was my first RC car. It is long gone now. I wish I had taken better care of it. That car was actually quite nice. I raced RC10's and JRX's after it but the Fox will always be the favorite of all the cars I've owned. At some point I may just pay the premium to find an original in good shape. It's more of a sentimental than financial thing.

There was an original in the box unbuilt Hornet kit on Craigslist this week for $30. My friend Chad bought it. It won't be a shelf queen. It'll get built and run. Last week we found an assortment of 5 mostly complete Frog's (enough to build 3 complete runners with extra parts), most of a gold pan RC10, and an original Hotshot on Craigslist for a total of $50 for all of it. It's a great find. Again my friend Chad bought it all. I'm buying the Hotshot off of him. I've always wanted one of those and that's the car he is least interested in of the bunch.

My friend Barry (of Bullet Racing and Raborn Racing Products from way back in the day), found an original still plastic wrapped unbuilt Erdinger RC10 kit at an estate sale for $25 not too long ago. He also got a Kyosho Optima Mid in the same unbuilt new in box condition at the same estate sale for $25. I drool at the thought of finding those.

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I think we will see quite a few more Re-re's and not just from Tamiya. They have proven that there is clearly a market for bringing some of the older models back into production. Not just for financial reasons, but also because it will support the long-term interest in the hobby. You have to ask the question; why did Tamiya do it? They were obviously listening to the customers who were asking for re-re's to become a reality. Surely it will only be a matter of time before some of the other manufacturers realise that there is an opportunity for them to do the same? We're seeing a lot of new 'classes', such as Short Course and 1/18th etc, and I think we should expect to see more re-re's to support the 'vintage' classes that are still being raced at many clubs.

Using modern day technologies makes a re-re very cheap to produce. The design is already complete and tested, no market research is required, and to reproduce the parts with modern day equipment is very cheap. Every aspect of the task, up to the point of manufacture, has already been completed.

I expect to see Associated and Kyosho jump on the bandwagon at some point too. :wink:

People want to keep certain things alive, because certain things cannot be improved. If people want an RC that handles and behaves like an original RC10 (for example) then technology cannot 'better' this because the customer doesn't want it to be better, they just want it exactly how it was. :roll:

I hope the madness doesn't stop, because some things will never get any better, and the only way to keep them alive and give people the chance to experience/own them is to re-re them. :P
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I was driving an RC10 around with my friend last week and he had his 540 motor equipped Grasshopper out there. I drove his car for a while and had a blast! Wouldn't change a thing.

Tamiya could actually position themselves in the mainstream again like the original cars were if they really wanted to. Have you looked at the current offering of toy RC cars out there? They are all crap. Absolutely horrible. The Grasshopper is a race car by comparison and much of the current stuff isn't even cheap. Kids still like RC toys. They just don't get to see any that don't suck.
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Jedi Master wrote:I expect to see Associated and Kyosho jump on the bandwagon at some point too. :wink:
Not likely, at least from the Kyosho side.... they didn't keep any tooling. I believe neither did Associated. It doesn't make biz sense to retool that stuff, not in today's world market, they'd prob lose their a$$.

Guys, don't get me wrong, when I started this thread then and still do appreciate the Re-res and it makes total biz sense, tooling is already there (it's paid for).

It's just I'd like to see some creativity other than Short Course hit the Market, especially from a great modeling company like Tamiya..... that's all.
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mrlexan wrote:
Jedi Master wrote:I expect to see Associated and Kyosho jump on the bandwagon at some point too. :wink:
Not likely, at least from the Kyosho side.... they didn't keep any tooling. I believe neither did Associated. It doesn't make biz sense to retool that stuff, not in today's world market, they'd prob lose their a$$.

Guys, don't get me wrong, when I started this thread then and still do appreciate the Re-res and it makes total biz sense, tooling is already there (it's paid for).

It's just I'd like to see some creativity other than Short Course hit the Market, especially from a great modeling company like Tamiya..... that's all.
I agree. There is so much bandwagoning out there. It was the monster trucks, now SC. I understand from a $ standpoint but lets get a variety. As for associated, they would pretty much just need to stamp the aluminum parts. I has not been long since that stopped making the black parts, some are still available at tower as I see some on order. I would think it would not be that hard to make a worlds type car again. I think it would be cool to make a alum tub car with some carbon/new tech parts. Look at the Losi 22, aluminum.
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It's time for a new hard bodied solid axle monster truck. Make it cost $400 and make it the coolest monster truck kit ever Tamiya!

It's too bad that Traxxas got the Monster Jam deal, it should have been Tamiya.

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MelvinsArmy wrote: It's too bad that Traxxas got the Monster Jam deal, it should have been Tamiya.
Absolutely.

In addition, if it were Tamiya's baby, you know that the polycarbonate bodies and decal sets would be superb and ... you'd still want to own one 15 years from now. Can you see anyone lamenting a missed opportunity to buy a Traxxas Bandit a few years down the road? I can't.

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shirochanwrx wrote:
MelvinsArmy wrote: It's too bad that Traxxas got the Monster Jam deal, it should have been Tamiya.
Absolutely.

In addition, if it were Tamiya's baby, you know that the polycarbonate bodies and decal sets would be superb and ... you'd still want to own one 15 years from now. Can you see anyone lamenting a missed opportunity to buy a Traxxas Bandit a few years down the road? I can't.
is tamiya shying away from polycarb bodies now though? seems to be lexan repro's of all the older polycarb stuff nowadays which is a real shame
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You confused me there proffesso. Lexan is polycarb, no? Like Kleenex is tissue and a Frisbee is a novelty flying disc? :lol:

Maybe you meant lexan reproductions of their styrene bodies?

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MelvinsArmy wrote:You confused me there proffesso. Lexan is polycarb, no? Like Kleenex is tissue and a Frisbee is a novelty flying disc? :lol:

Maybe you meant lexan reproductions of their styrene bodies?
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Ah, I figured. :lol:

Still, they've made a few styrene bodies lately with the SRB re-releases. I guess those aren't new molds though. That Hilift Tundra was pretty recent though right?

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