refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
- jwscab
- Super Member
- Posts: 6512
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:42 am
- Location: Chalfont, PA
- Has thanked: 10 times
- Been thanked: 454 times
refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
So I'm going to restore a trinity/CC rc10 chassis......it is well used, slightly chipped up front, and I will be re-laminating, trimming to make the front look new.
the bottom and top have some scuffs and light scratches.....I was thinking of using a crystal clear thin epoxy to more or less squeegee over the surface on the top and bottom. follow that up with some wet sanding to give it a semi-gloss kind of finish, more or less like it was when it was new.
anyone ever attempt this or is familiar with refinishing carbon fiber? I see when I run water over the chassis, the scratches pretty much disappear and it looks great....thinking a layer of thin epoxy would do the same.....
the scratches appear whitish.....what about a quick dip in a black dye bath?
any opinions or suggestions?
the bottom and top have some scuffs and light scratches.....I was thinking of using a crystal clear thin epoxy to more or less squeegee over the surface on the top and bottom. follow that up with some wet sanding to give it a semi-gloss kind of finish, more or less like it was when it was new.
anyone ever attempt this or is familiar with refinishing carbon fiber? I see when I run water over the chassis, the scratches pretty much disappear and it looks great....thinking a layer of thin epoxy would do the same.....
the scratches appear whitish.....what about a quick dip in a black dye bath?
any opinions or suggestions?
- drbelleville
- Approved Member
- Posts: 815
- Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 5:03 am
- Location: My Adopted state - Texas
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
I know many years ago I used a Loctite Superglue to reglue a section of a graphite chassis RC10 front end. I even used a clamp to gently press the delaminations back together after applying the glue. When it dried, you could see where the clamp pressure was applied, it seemed as though the Glue had "eaten" and left dimples in the carbon plate (it was no longer smooth, but rather rough).jwscab wrote:So I'm going to restore a trinity/CC rc10 chassis......it is well used, slightly chipped up front, and I will be re-laminating, trimming to make the front look new.
the bottom and top have some scuffs and light scratches.....I was thinking of using a crystal clear thin epoxy to more or less squeegee over the surface on the top and bottom. follow that up with some wet sanding to give it a semi-gloss kind of finish, more or less like it was when it was new.
anyone ever attempt this or is familiar with refinishing carbon fiber? I see when I run water over the chassis, the scratches pretty much disappear and it looks great....thinking a layer of thin epoxy would do the same.....
the scratches appear whitish.....what about a quick dip in a black dye bath?
any opinions or suggestions?
On the On-road RC10L Fiberglass and RC12L carbon chassis, I have used epoxy to good effect in repairing holes and gouges. I had not noticed any damage to the carbon or fiberglass.
I will post which Epoxy I used, just as referrence - got to dig it out of the garage.
Best of luck,
Maurice
-
- Approved Member
- Posts: 8921
- Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:44 pm
- Location: USA
- Been thanked: 8 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
Let's see some pics of what you have to start with! The only trouble that I can think of ( and it's a guess ) is that the resin that is used in Carbon Fiber is a liquid to solid system, and it's cured with
heat and impregnates itself within the fibers because of pressure and heat. A clear coat/epoxy etc will not "embed" itself into the exposed fibers or the finished surface, but rather-sit on top of them, normally leaving gaps as it dries/cures and pulls away from the surface leaving a hazy finish. Also without the blending of the resin and the fibers, that "shine" that you get from the light penetration
into the material goes away and the material goes dull from the refraction of the light in the new surface coating.
I think
heat and impregnates itself within the fibers because of pressure and heat. A clear coat/epoxy etc will not "embed" itself into the exposed fibers or the finished surface, but rather-sit on top of them, normally leaving gaps as it dries/cures and pulls away from the surface leaving a hazy finish. Also without the blending of the resin and the fibers, that "shine" that you get from the light penetration
into the material goes away and the material goes dull from the refraction of the light in the new surface coating.
I think
- jwscab
- Super Member
- Posts: 6512
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:42 am
- Location: Chalfont, PA
- Has thanked: 10 times
- Been thanked: 454 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
Jay Dub, THAT was a beautiful car......I considered picking it up, just didn't have the funds.
can you elaborate on the process with the west systems clear epoxy?
can you elaborate on the process with the west systems clear epoxy?
- scr8p
- Administrator
- Posts: 16550
- Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:46 pm
- Location: Northampton, PA
- Has thanked: 29 times
- Been thanked: 981 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
what i've done in the past was to build up clear in deep scratches/gouges until it's higher than the chassis plate. once dry, you can either take a fresh razor blade and shave the high spots flush, or block sand them down, then proceed with sanding to remove the light scuffs/scratches. when done, you may still be able to see the deeper scratches depending on how you hold the chassis, but the finish will be completely smooth.
it would be similar to what you said about using a squeegie to push it into the scratches. but, 9 times out of 10 the clear will soak into the scratches as it dries and will end up being lower than the chassis plate. which will lead to having to do it multiple times. building it up higher, letting it soak in and dry, it should be a one shot deal.
it would be similar to what you said about using a squeegie to push it into the scratches. but, 9 times out of 10 the clear will soak into the scratches as it dries and will end up being lower than the chassis plate. which will lead to having to do it multiple times. building it up higher, letting it soak in and dry, it should be a one shot deal.
- jwscab
- Super Member
- Posts: 6512
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:42 am
- Location: Chalfont, PA
- Has thanked: 10 times
- Been thanked: 454 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
here are some pics of what I am working with. My game plan is to use a thin epoxy, lay down some polyethylene plastic on a mirror(flat piece of glass), coat the bottom(or top) of the chassis, and then apply some weight to press the chassis flat. a few minutes later I should be able to see if I have ALOT of sanding to do, or just a little bit of cleanup.
the nose will get a thin CA treatment as the layers are clamped tightly together with some bar stock and clamps.
the nose will get a thin CA treatment as the layers are clamped tightly together with some bar stock and clamps.
-
- Approved Member
- Posts: 8921
- Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:44 pm
- Location: USA
- Been thanked: 8 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
Wow, look at that! The R & L are ground into that chassis from use Perfect test bed for sure!!!
- scr8p
- Administrator
- Posts: 16550
- Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:46 pm
- Location: Northampton, PA
- Has thanked: 29 times
- Been thanked: 981 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
that has "worlds" front end written all over it......... if it were mine.
- jwscab
- Super Member
- Posts: 6512
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:42 am
- Location: Chalfont, PA
- Has thanked: 10 times
- Been thanked: 454 times
Re: refinishing scratched carbon fiber with clear epoxy?
ya, this was my most used chassis for my RC10 (this is the incarnation I drove the most), and is a perfect example of the word 'fretting', hahhah.....
the nose was just reglued, I'll give it an hour or so and see what it looks like.
Scr8p....that is an interesting idea.....I may just trim the very edge off though....we shall see how it turns out.
the nose was just reglued, I'll give it an hour or so and see what it looks like.
Scr8p....that is an interesting idea.....I may just trim the very edge off though....we shall see how it turns out.
Create an account or sign in to join the discussion
You need to be a member in order to post a reply
Create an account
Not a member? register to join our community
Members can start their own topics & subscribe to topics
It’s free and only takes a minute
Sign in
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 6 Replies
- 571 Views
-
Last post by PBR Allstar
-
- 4 Replies
- 1375 Views
-
Last post by iPearl
-
- 1 Replies
- 469 Views
-
Last post by toolman72
-
- 11 Replies
- 1353 Views
-
Last post by Bullfrog
-
- 14 Replies
- 1360 Views
-
Last post by aeiou
-
- 5 Replies
- 1297 Views
-
Last post by trkneller
-
- 5 Replies
- 3168 Views
-
Last post by fordtransman
-
- 2 Replies
- 299 Views
-
Last post by silvertriple
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: RogueIV and 2 guests