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Re: Project "RC10 Stealth 4" (June 8th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:52 pm
by minimini
soniccj5 wrote:
Soncho Ponza wrote:COOL ideas This one is fun to watch
It certainly is!

Would it be possible to cut the top off the front stealth to save room? Or would that weaken it too much?
if you cut out the top part of the front stealth.....then you need to use some materials to cover up the defect..... which I think is not the best solution.....I prefer to keep it intact.....:)
flipwils11 wrote:Wow this looks really impressive. Never would have thought to use an entire Stealth trans up front and mount the case like that. Very nice.
the brilliant idea of using a front stealth is from Jeff..... the honour belongs to him for sure.... I made some minor modifications only....... :)

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:37 pm
by minimini
now comes to the front hubs..... as the original RC10 nose plate has a kick-up angle of 30 degrees...... I need to do something to counterbalance this ...... :)

I chose some modern material..... the Durango DEX410 front hub with 21 degrees caster......after that......the overall caster angle would be 9 degrees which I think is more reasonable.....:)

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:44 pm
by GoMachV
The Durango parts look great! I wonder what the width will look like with these hubs? The kyosho hubs are the reason I had to make the nose so narrow. Keep us informed!

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:45 pm
by minimini
the next thing to deal with..... is the bellcranks..... :)

the space under the front stealth is very tight......so I need to use a very thin one .....:)

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:55 pm
by minimini
gomachv wrote:The Durango parts look great! I wonder what the width will look like with these hubs? The kyosho hubs are the reason I had to make the nose so narrow. Keep us informed!
I have a rough estimation of the front cvd .... it is around 62.5mm long..... which is the same as Kyosho ....:)

not sure about the exact overall width.....but if it is too narrow.... I can use a thick hexa or rims with more offset...... I need to get the cvd tomorrow..... :)

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:20 pm
by Phin
minimini wrote:now comes to the front hubs..... as the original RC10 nose plate has a kick-up angle of 30 degrees...... I need to do something to counterbalance this ...... :)

I chose some modern material..... the Durango DEX410 front hub with 21 degrees caster......after that......the overall caster angle would be 9 degrees which I think is more reasonable.....:)
Are you sure the Durango blocks are 21 degrees by themselves or are they 21 degrees based on the 12 degree kick-up on the DEX410? If they give 21 degrees including the DEX410 kick-up then then they're only adding (or subtracting) 9 degrees of caster. So reversed on the RC10's 30 degree kick-up they would make the overall caster 21 degrees not 9.

It's like with RC10B4 caster blocks...they may say they're 30 degrees but that's based on a 25 degree kick-up....on a 30 degree kick-up they're actually 35 degree blocks. :?

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:18 pm
by tiger1
good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:44 am
by minimini
Phin wrote:
minimini wrote:now comes to the front hubs..... as the original RC10 nose plate has a kick-up angle of 30 degrees...... I need to do something to counterbalance this ...... :)

I chose some modern material..... the Durango DEX410 front hub with 21 degrees caster......after that......the overall caster angle would be 9 degrees which I think is more reasonable.....:)
Are you sure the Durango blocks are 21 degrees by themselves or are they 21 degrees based on the 12 degree kick-up on the DEX410? If they give 21 degrees including the DEX410 kick-up then then they're only adding (or subtracting) 9 degrees of caster. So reversed on the RC10's 30 degree kick-up they would make the overall caster 21 degrees not 9.

It's like with RC10B4 caster blocks...they may say they're 30 degrees but that's based on a 25 degree kick-up....on a 30 degree kick-up they're actually 35 degree blocks. :?

not sure how Durango calculates the caster angle.....but this is the front hub I can find with the biggest caster angle (for 4wd cars) at present moment....... worth to try it anyway ..... :)

I did ask pargu about custom-made a pair of front hubs at 20 degress caster angle.... but he declined.... :(

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:20 pm
by cooltoys
Nice work on the conversion.. looking forward to more progress... :D :D

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4 Mini" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:30 pm
by minimini
minimini wrote:
gomachv wrote:The Durango parts look great! I wonder what the width will look like with these hubs? The kyosho hubs are the reason I had to make the nose so narrow. Keep us informed!
I have a rough estimation of the front cvd .... it is around 62.5mm long..... which is the same as Kyosho ....:)

not sure about the exact overall width.....but if it is too narrow.... I can use a thick hexa or rims with more offset...... I need to get the cvd tomorrow..... :)
As I am a bit more familiar with Yokomo stuffs....likely I'll throw in Yokomo rims in this car....so I need to look for longer arms which fit the shallow offset Yokomo rims like those in 91' Works........:)

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:35 pm
by myfordcnc
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Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:34 am
by wydraz
I'm doing this too :)

Big thanks to Mini and Gomachv for inspiring me ;)

Mine will use Kyosho front hubs, knuckles and shafts - I'll start a new thread when everything arrives!

Dan

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4" (June 12th, 2014 updated)

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:39 am
by minimini
wydraz wrote:I'm doing this too :)

Big thanks to Mini and Gomachv for inspiring me ;)

Mine will use Kyosho front hubs, knuckles and shafts - I'll start a new thread when everything arrives!

Dan
yes.... everyone can do their own version of stealth 4..... :)

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4" by mini (June 12th, 2014 update

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:28 am
by lcpvcce
Nice work ............. :lol: :lol:

Re: Project "RC10 Stealth-4" by mini (June 17th, 2014 update

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:41 am
by minimini
as suggested by Jeff..... the front end is quite narrow using the RPM Team car arms plus the durango hubs..... so I changed to Jake's nylon arms......:)

when using the Yokomo rims..... the width would be 240mm (both F & R)..... :)