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My Ultima 2019

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I finally got a new Ultima kit to build. This will be my first Kyosho build and I am excited to see what they have done to improve these 80's classics.
ImageKyosho Ultima by Justin B, on Flickr
So far I have the kit, a black rear wing, and a set of CRP adapters to use old school Tamiya wheels on a 12mm hex. Most of my collection is Tamiya, so I have plenty of vintage style wheel/tire options.
ImageUltima project parts by Justin B, on Flickr
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This looks so purdy inside :mrgreen: It could be displayed as it is.
ImageUltima box display by Justin B, on Flickr
I just ordered some diff fluid. I have all the electronics for it already. Time to get started!

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Re: My Ultima 2019

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So you're documenting the build here. Awesome! I was hoping you would do that. Thank you!! :D
I had the original Ultima bitd but I only race it a couple season before selling it so I didn't remember much about it. I don't recall any major faults so maybe there wasn't much for Kyosho to correct with the re-re. The metal gears are big plus - no issues with modern brushless/lipo power. They've provide plastic insulators to prevent metal batteries shorting against the aluminum chassis. I've never heard of anyone have a problem but it's good they've taken steps to address the potential safety hazard anyway.

I've built several of Kyosho re-re's recently and I'm super-impressed with the quality.

Looking forward to updates. :D
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I'll try to take pics as I go, but I tend to get "build blinders" and forget about a camera. I am still running Nimh's so I won't have to worry about a bullet connector touching the chassis and shorting out. It's good to know the issue has been dealt with in case I upgrade in the future. Considering my re-re experience has been with the low end Tamiya cars, this should drive quit a bit better than my Grasshopper :lol:

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I often forget the camera as well. No worries!
Since you're running metal batteries, you'll definitely want to fit those insulators I mentioned. It's really not about the battery connection type, the insulators are meant to prevent the sharp edges on the aluminum chassis piercing the shrink wrap on the battery and creating a short.
I've highlighted them here in this illustration cut from the manual.
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I'm trying to recall any issues when I built mine a few months ago. I really can't think of anything other than those OT253 shock gaskets are a bear to install without breaking them. Just go slow and careful, working the gasket down evenly one thread at a time. Kyosho provides a few extra gaskets in a bag of spare parts should you need them.
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Overall, it seemed to be a very well thought-out and executed kit.
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I see what you mean now. I had read about the possibility of having a Lipo running with bullet connectors touching the frame and shorting, so that's what I was thinking about. I am definitely using those guards so I don't cut batteries. I also read about those shock gaskets, not looking forward to that part.

Last night I had a look through the manual and realized I need diff fluid so I ordered some up. Today I went to start the build and the first thing to do is build the diff :roll: So I will be working on the body first this time around. I always talked about finishing a body before building the kit. I guess it's time.

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Body is trimmed a clean. The frayed edge in the pics is just the plastic mask on the outside of the body. I have my good days and bad days when it comes to my hands shaking. Today wasn't great, I've done much better. It's a runner so no big deal.
Imagetrimmed and cleaned by Justin B, on Flickr
I tried some Tamiya tires that I have on the front wheels just for fun. I'm pretty sure they are for a wider wheel but they fit on these just fine. Here's the stock front and the Tamiya front.
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They look a little too gnarly with the rear tires.
ImageTamiya front stock rear by Justin B, on Flickr
Tomorrow I will start masking and painting the body.

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Yeah, I see what you mean about the tires. They'd be perfect if it were front wheel drive. :lol:
Anyway, I've never actually tried diff fluid before. Probably not a bad idea though. I just packed the diff with that wonderful green grease supplied in the kit. The grease gives it a little resistance but not much.
So you're obviously not going box art since you have a black wing. I went the box art route since I'm not very talented when it comes to paint.
Can't wait to see what you do with your paint work.
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I didn't feel like buying white paint...so I bought a black wing instead :roll: :lol:

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These would work for the rear if I wanted to use Tamiya tires
https://www.ebay.com/p/1451065666

The tires are very stiff though. Maybe at some point I will get a 2nd set of wheels to try them out.

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This paint job may take longer than expected. I had to use some Fasmask and it says to let it dry for 24 hours. I think I can do the other 2 colors just using masking tape. The helmet and gloves will be the same color. Maybe not the best color for the gloves, but I'm using paint I already have on hand. I've got my fingers crossed that this will come out ok. It's a runner so it won't matter too much.

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As the aluminium chassis is anodised there's no need to be all that worried about shorting out batteries on a brand new chassis. But if you want to run a shorty later, you can get the shorty holder I designed for this chassis. It's available from my shapeways shop

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Biz73 wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:23 pm This paint job may take longer than expected. I had to use some Fasmask and it says to let it dry for 24 hours. I think I can do the other 2 colors just using masking tape. The helmet and gloves will be the same color. Maybe not the best color for the gloves, but I'm using paint I already have on hand. I've got my fingers crossed that this will come out ok. It's a runner so it won't matter too much.
Would be interested to see what you think of liquid mask. I had always used tape, but got some liquid mask a couple of years ago to see what it was like. I didn't really get on with it that well though unfortunately, felt by cutting in by knife on the body I'd end with scratches inside the shell so I abandoned it and continued with tape. I like the idea of flexibility with liquid mask though, as cutting tape off body and then fitting can be fiddly and risks paint leakage.

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Mr. ED wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:12 am As the aluminium chassis is anodised there's no need to be all that worried about shorting out batteries on a brand new chassis. But if you want to run a shorty later, you can get the shorty holder I designed for this chassis. It's available from my shapeways shop
I'm running Nimhs for now, so no worries about shorting bullet connectors. If I get into lipos I will definitely be getting your shorty holder :)

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MrChin wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:49 am
Biz73 wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:23 pm This paint job may take longer than expected. I had to use some Fasmask and it says to let it dry for 24 hours. I think I can do the other 2 colors just using masking tape. The helmet and gloves will be the same color. Maybe not the best color for the gloves, but I'm using paint I already have on hand. I've got my fingers crossed that this will come out ok. It's a runner so it won't matter too much.
Would be interested to see what you think of liquid mask. I had always used tape, but got some liquid mask a couple of years ago to see what it was like. I didn't really get on with it that well though unfortunately, felt by cutting in by knife on the body I'd end with scratches inside the shell so I abandoned it and continued with tape. I like the idea of flexibility with liquid mask though, as cutting tape off body and then fitting can be fiddly and risks paint leakage.
When I went out to paint the body yesterday it looked like the Fasmask had evaporated, it was completely clear. I wasn't sure if it was truly masked so I brushed some more on and put it in front of a fan for about 10 mins. I shot the paint and we shall see tomorrow if the mask worked. I already peeled away the tape covering today's paint area so as soon as it warms up a bit I will be out there spraying. Tomorrow I will have to peel the Fasmask off and see if it worked well or not. The only reason I used it is because I couldn't get masking tape into the steering wheel section very well. I'll find out how well it worked tomorrow before I spray the final color.

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I got the body painted. The Fasmask actually worked perfect, unlike my tape job. Then I started to sticker up the body when I remembered, I hate doing the stickers on an RC body. After screwing up a couple I got so frustrated that I went inside and spent the day PO'd :lol: I did a couple more the next day, but have left off the "sponsor" stickers. I didn't want to deal with the seatbelt at all, but I couldn't stand it not looking finished on the driver and actually did a decent job yesterday before starting the build. Good from far, but far from good best describes the body. It's a runner so it doesn't really matter.

I started building the car yesterday. It's going good. There were a couple times I had to re-do something because I put parts on in the wrong order, but that was my fault. After I bolted the rear end to the chassis I noticed my nice brand new bottle of diff fluid. I was deep into the instruction manual and totally forgot :roll: I'll run it as is for now to see how it is. Eventually I will pull it apart to re-do. I finished the D bag yesterday. Yes, I am an immature turd that still giggles when I say D bag, lol. Today is damper day. I've got some Losi x-rings I may use instead of the stock o-rings, but I'm not sure. I'll update soon.

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